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[-] Plume@beehaw.org 67 points 1 year ago

Reddit actions are tragic for the web. I can't even tell you how many times I searched something and typed Reddit at the end of the query. Not just because Reddit search SUCKS, but mostly because it's a gold mine of information. Especially for technical stuff.

Your game crash? Reddit. Weird bug on your laptop? Reddit. Looking for a cool app? Reddit. Have a weird question? Reddit.

Reddit saved me countless hours and headache. I felt that yesterday when doing a search about something without even putting Reddit on it, kept bringing up Reddit links. I'd click on it without reading and end up on a locked sub because of the blackout.

It sucks but I hope it's going to continue. But at the same time, I don't see Reddit backing down. And even lf they do? I'm not going back. Because how dare you? Like... screw you for even trying to pull that crap on your users.

[-] OrthoStice@feddit.it 8 points 1 year ago

Agree, but I think that's the point: this is the proof we have to switch to a different model. It will take time to replace Reddit as the huge information source it was (and to a certain extent still is), but I'm willing to hope it can happen.

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[-] yads@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago

Had this happen today. Was searching for some programming related stuff and top pages are all inaccessible Reddit posts.

[-] lwaxana_katana@beehaw.org 19 points 1 year ago

Hopefully it will help people realise that a profit motive being attached to everything is actually counterproductive societally.

[-] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Same. Had some things I needed to look up for my 3D printer and much of the results were inaccessible.

Was a pain.

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[-] ghost_in_the_code@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 1 year ago

Same. I found it funny though. Showed that if we tried we can cause some chaos

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[-] forgotmylastusername@lemmy.ml 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Am I the only one that's noticed how reddit has been fucking with web crawlers? They insert newer comments into older posts so the crawlers pick up false results.

A few years back they started injecting a "related posts" box into pages. What that does is multiply the amount of results a crawler will pick up. But all those are false results. There's only one true search result which is the original comment/post. Some times I find myself sifting though the search engine results to find the actual original post.

I know all this blackout stuff hurts now. I see it as necessary for the platform to lose its status as the "front page of the internet". Reddit turned evil a long time ago. It's long past time it be deposed of.

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[-] gabuwu@beehaw.org 44 points 1 year ago

People rely far too heavily on reddit for public resources. Here's hoping that changes now.

[-] ryuko@lemmy.ml 38 points 1 year ago

This also highlights the problem with a lot of communities moving to Discord, which inevitably ends up as repositories for critical information, but can't be indexed by Google. Reddit is still valuable as a problem solving resource, and I hope they fix this API fiasco.

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[-] spaduf 30 points 1 year ago

Before reddit removed them most of this compiled knowledge was in the subreddit wikis. I honestly believe a return to communities with wikis is the long term replacement.

[-] TerryTPlatypus@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago

Honestly, not a bad opinion, when the wikis were done well, they did have some extremely useful information. I wonder if we could do something like that in Lemmy...

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[-] OneRedFox@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

It would be interesting if Fediverse platforms made an external wiki for discoverability. A big shared community resource all in one place.

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[-] fenfalca@lemmy.one 28 points 1 year ago

This has been deeply frustrating, but since that's the whole point, I support this collective inconvenience.

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[-] monkeytennis@beehaw.org 26 points 1 year ago

Tacking "Reddit" onto search queries almost became a prerequisite. Never imagined I'd have to replace that with "-Reddit".

It's made researching a media centre setup very difficult this week...

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[-] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 23 points 1 year ago

Google Search has been sucking for quite a long time.

"site:old.reddit.com" was just a temporary fix

[-] thejml@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago

Definitely saw this coming… can’t imagine what will happen if Stack Overflow pulls something similar. All WebDev/DevOps work will halt overnight.

I’ve been trying to put my issues/solutions in a personal blog or wiki, but there’s so much old info out there in sites like Reddit/SO/medium/etc, it’d be a huge loss when it goes away.

[-] PenguinTD@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

Maybe it really is time to get open sourced AI and bots to archive useful information so they don't get monopolized.

[-] ArtVandelay@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago

I think it's time to get back to old habits. Back in my cyber café days (and after too, since internet was not as reliable here), I would save pages to view them later at home offline.

Manual scrapping, basically.

Getting the language reference/docs in HTML format, like I used to for PHP.

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[-] BobQuasit@beehaw.org 20 points 1 year ago
[-] MJBrune@beehaw.org 17 points 1 year ago

I've actively found this as well but honestly, I think it's for the best because most of the time Reddit posts with actual answers aren't well-cited. So if anyone asks how you know something, "uhh Reddit told me" is pretty weak. So Google is getting better because Reddit has gotten worse. It means that you have to go to the actual articles and find the actual sources instead of this daisy chain of information. We have a huge issue with misinformation and this actually helps resolve it.

[-] nodiet@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago

Wait you use reddit posts to inform yourself on things where misinformation is possible? I also was mildy inconvenienced by the blackouts but it was mostly related to programming stuff, where it is very obvious if an answer is wrong. I don't think I would even consider using reddit as a source for anything factual

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[-] kryostar@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago

Ah yes, working as intended. It's probably affecting people more than reddit themselves. Hope the content draught continues though.

[-] fennec@feddit.de 14 points 1 year ago

That’s why I used shreddit to delete all my posts and comments on Reddit. It’s not much, but if everyone does it Reddit will feel the repercussions. They won’t benefit from my content anymore.

[-] monerobull@monero.town 14 points 1 year ago

I don't want to take away ressources from people who will look into Monero in the future :/

In the past I commented many explanations when people asked for help and I don't want someone to find a thread with a question and deleted comment with a "Thanks!" reply. I guess a script to change all my past comments into something along the lines of "Removed. In case this was a support-related comment, feel free to ask for help on monero.town" could work?

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[-] lastrogue@lemmy.einval.net 12 points 1 year ago

I mean if you do hit this, like I have. You can just use google's webcached view. or sometimes the internet archive.

I found this covers most of my needs: https://cachedview.com/

[-] Guy_Fieris_Hair@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Makes me want to go back and edit my posts to f*** /u/spez because I don't want them getting traffic off of my content. But also don't want that entire collection of human data gone if everyone did the same.

Too bad we can't all export and reconstruct our conversations here somehow.

My posts are 99% shitposts anyway, so it doesn't really matter, nothing constructive to mankind.

[-] lka1988@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Do it. Use "Power Delete Suite", it has an option to edit comments before deleting everything.

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[-] DarraignTheSane@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I think it's more appropriate to say that internet searches in general had been getting worse over the last several years, but it just so happened to be the case that your answer could likely be found in a reddit thread.

[-] halictuz@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago

For many people google (or whatever engine) was just a gateway to get informations on reddit. With all those sub reddits down at the moment, a lot of searches are really hard to get informations, because like it, or not, reddit is a big part of getting informations or opinions etc.

[-] amber 10 points 1 year ago

I just add “forum” to the back of my search

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[-] priapus@lemmy.one 10 points 1 year ago

I'm considering switching to Kagi because of this. Its results are impressive.

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[-] Dave_r@reddthat.com 7 points 1 year ago

So... How is Lemmy set for SEO?

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