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I still don't get buffers (programming.dev)
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[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 116 points 6 months ago

Nevermind simply having an OS-level clipboard manager...

[-] mp3@lemmy.ca 64 points 6 months ago

Win+V works decently enough for me.

[-] jnk@sh.itjust.works 39 points 6 months ago

Same for plasma, global clipboard is just more convenient

[-] whats_all_this_then@programming.dev 12 points 6 months ago

Global clipboard is chef's kiss. Back when I was on Ubuntu/Gnome, I had to install CopyQ but having one come with the OS is great

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[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 9 points 6 months ago

I think windows+v syncs to microsoft servers or something. I remember when I was running chris titus tech's debloat script it removed that functionality.

[-] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 10 points 6 months ago

I googled it, there is an option to sync it to your Microsoft account, but I can't say whether that's on by default when you turn on clipboard history because I skipped adding a Microsoft account. But if it is, you can turn it off in Settings -> System -> Clipboard.

Holy crap I think that may be why I never used it. Fuck how much Windows likes to calls home

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 months ago

An excellent option to have when one of the major use cases for clipboards is as an intermediary for password managers.

I hope they eventually get sued into the fucking ground.

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[-] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 18 points 6 months ago

There is for windows, and it's further improved if you get power toys too

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[-] marcos@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago

Application specific buffers are the first thing I disable on emacs. The OS one isn't just integrated with every other normal piece of software, it's also more powerful and easier to use.

... at least on my Linux, YMMV.

[-] PlexSheep@infosec.pub 5 points 6 months ago

The os buffer is just another buffer that I can yank into.

[-] Cwilliams@beehaw.org 5 points 6 months ago
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[-] JoYo@lemmy.ml 37 points 6 months ago

ive never had to think about clipboard buffers until i used a modal editor.

now i spend %60 of my time trying to figure out where the copied symbol went.

[-] evatronic@lemm.ee 8 points 6 months ago

I don't have the name handy, but there's at least one plugin for vim that shows buffer previews in a popup. I've got it mapped to leader-sb (for "show buffer").

So far I haven't been brave enough for that feature. It's either "that main place yank goes", "system clipboard", or "that place that makes it disappear" for me

[-] unhinge@programming.dev 6 points 6 months ago

You can see all registers in use with :registers, to paste from a register say "2 in insert mode use key combination <ctrl-r>2 or in normal mode "2p. You can check out more in :help registers. Unnamed register or "" is the system clipboard I think. To copy texts in a register you can prepend yank (/delete/cut, etc.) with that register "_ (for black hole register[^black_hole]) This is for neovim. Have keybinds for them and there saved you a plugin :D

[^black_hole]: Text yanked in this register is gone, i.e. it's not saved in any register.

[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 34 points 6 months ago

Gee, X11! How come your mom lets you have THREE clipboards?

[-] JoYo@lemmy.ml 18 points 6 months ago

then theyre all ignored by x-clip

xD

Wait is that an actual thing?

[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yes. X11 replaced X10's obsolete cut buffers (which can be modified by any process) with state-of-the-art selections. There are three selections in X11: a primary, a secondary, and a clipboard.

In modern desktops, the primary selection is overwritten every time you select some text (including in the terminal), which makes its content very ephemeral. You can paste it with the middle mouse button.

The secondary selection is generally not used, but it's present in the specification, and you can use xclip -selection secondary to access it. Wayland doesn't seem to have a secondary selection.

The clipboard selection is what most people understand to be THE clipboard. You have to write to it explicitly (through a keyboard shortcut, API, or CLI tool), and its content persists until it is overwritten, explicitly cleared, or the X server is killed. While the primary and secondary can only contain text, the clipboard can contain many kinds of data.

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[-] cybersandwich@lemmy.world 31 points 6 months ago

I can't tell if ops joke is "intentionally confusing buffers with registers" and everyone is playing along or if people aren't making the distinction between the two in this thread.

Which is ironic and humorous...potentially by accident.

I'm an idiot and I think I confused the two haha

My thought process based on when I setup my config: "yank copies to my main 'buffer', yank copies to system clipboard through that special 'buffer', and delete deletes without replacing what's in my main 'buffer'. I have multiple clipboards!"

Completely forgot they're called registers and that buffers are just "where text is" (at least as far as I understand it)

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[-] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 30 points 6 months ago

Y'all haven't heard of Windows clipboard history? Windows + V will change your life, I tell ya!

[-] dariusj18@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

Last I checked you have to enable it, which is annoying.

[-] capital@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

You use it once, it asks if you want to enable, and you click literally one button.

[-] suy@programming.dev 10 points 6 months ago

Meanwhile, this was a feature on KDE-land since Klipper, which goes back (as far as I know and if I remember well) to KDE 3 or sooner.

[-] dariusj18@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

There have been third party clipboard managers forever in windows, which is kind of funny because that is almost more like the unix philosophy than expecting the UI system to handle it all.

[-] suy@programming.dev 4 points 6 months ago

Klipper was entirely a different program, process, etc. that was using the system tray. Nowadays it seems to be a plasmoid in the system tray. How can that be less of a UNIX philosophy than the Windows alternative? Because it's developed by the same community that makes the shell? That doesn't make sense to me.

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[-] amphetaminisiert@feddit.nl 24 points 6 months ago

And I still don't really know how to use registers in vim 😂 I just use yy and paste 🥲

[-] Psaldorn@lemmy.world 27 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

You just do " (listen for next character as register name)

Then, say q,w,e etc, then yy to yank as normal.

So "wyy

To retrieve it you use "wp

To add to it "Wyy

To view them :reg

Remember you can make "w anything, like "x or "p

And each time you yank it gets pushed into the default register history "0 "1 "2 etc

[-] emergencybird@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

I didn't know about registers, thank you for this!

[-] amphetaminisiert@feddit.nl 4 points 6 months ago

Ok I have to save that 🥲 thanks!

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

I only know how to use them with q. I hope that's a register, otherwise I will look foolish.

[-] suy@programming.dev 4 points 6 months ago

They are. Registers are just "named boxes" where you can store some text and/or keystrokes. When yanking and pasting, the unnamed register is used if you don't specify a name (you can still see or edit it explicitly). For recording a macro there is no default register, though. You need to give it a name.

[-] stepan@lemmy.cafe 19 points 6 months ago

Same thing but reversed with multiple cursors :/

That's actually the biggest thing I miss about VSCode

[-] chihiro@lemmy.kya.moe 9 points 6 months ago

https://github.com/mg979/vim-visual-multi

I also missed multiple courses, but I started using vim-visual-multi in my nvim config and it's been great. There's a few others I tried that I couldn't get to work quite right (usually some weird conflict with nvim-cmp) but I've had the best success with vim-visual-multi.

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[-] JoYo@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 months ago

helix has a pretty good mc system in the select mode.

[-] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 months ago

search in selection is such a cool workflow

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[-] JoYo@lemmy.ml 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

they have no use for copy buffers, they are still configuring emacs.

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 months ago

No, but I'm happy to talk to you about our lord and savior nano

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Obligatory boo and/or hiss

I've also been meaning to give emacs a try but haven't found the time or energy to figure out how to exit vim

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[-] puppy@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

Buffers are great. Comes very handy when creating macros in vim.

[-] unhinge@programming.dev 5 points 6 months ago

I think you mean registers not buffers. buffers are file(s) loaded in memory while registers contain text yanked/deleted/last command/last search, etc.

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[-] DavidP@midwest.social 6 points 6 months ago

Give CopyQ a try. Open source, cross platform clipboard manager with tons of features.

One example option is being able to only ever paste plain text. It also has lots of programming hooks, I have a few for doing things like converting a line-feed delimited list into one delimited by commas and quoting the values.

[-] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

I like vim and use it almost every day, but sometimes I miss Strg+D and Alt+F3 from Sublime (multi edit). Block select + c isn't as useful as this.

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