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[-] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago

But hey, CAiTLyn JeNner thinks Trump is the most LGBTQ friendly president. That’s settles any debate, y’all.

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 18 points 5 months ago

The only person this guy likes is himself.

[-] tobogganablaze@lemmus.org 18 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Dunno, he really seems to be into his daughter.

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[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago

You’re so rude! He also loves whichever human lavished him with the most praise in the past 24 hours (he doesn’t have the memory to recall more than that)

[-] Furbag@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

Wow, what a man of the people... Truly a candidate who has the best interests of every American at heart.

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[-] TheJims@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

What? The land of the free?

[-] tjp@kbin.social 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

So...I'm a Christian and still can't for the life of me understand the appeal of these vicious, hateful positions.

I'm even pretty direct-to-the-bible in my theology, thus the ideas that we are "fearfully and wonderfully made," and that God doesn't make mistakes, lead me to believe that choosing a different gender than you were born with is probably missing out on God's best for us.

Yet despite some common ground with the "religious right", I'm still to this day completely at a loss as to how you would get from literally anything you find in the bible to encouraging or applauding the removal of protections for very at-risk persons.

I promise, you can not read the Bible as a serious undertaking and arrive where these people have.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 18 points 5 months ago

If god doesn't make mistakes then the existence of trans people is not a mistake but rather a test of basic regard and compassion or something of the sorts.

There's one word in what you said that's the lynchpin: "choice". Trans people don't choose to be trans. Who the fuck would choose to be dysphoric.

[-] fiercekitten@lemm.ee 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yeah exactly, trans people don’t choose to be trans; they choose to treat their dysphoria. When they don’t, they often die.

The medically proven effective and successful ways to do that include transitioning, hormone treatment, etc..

Medically proven ineffective ways are what republicans push for and is what’s happening all across the US: conversion therapy, denying gender dysphoria exists at all, public shame and ridicule, exclusion from society by eliminating housing, employment, and other non-discrimination protections, painting trans people as delusional/dangerous, denial of healthcare, having the state take trans children away from their parents, claiming “transness” is a social contagion, trying to criminalize being trans in schools and in public by banning dressing in a way that’s not stereotypical or traditional for one’s sex/gender, and mocking the 40% suicide rate among trans people that are denied care and lack social support.

[-] platypus_plumba@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

I'm sorry but this logic doesn't make sense to me. If everyone is perfect the way they are, then Trump is also perfect the way he is, and he is a monster in disguise, far from remotely acceptable.

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[-] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 14 points 5 months ago

Deuteronomy 23:1: English Standard Version “No one whose testicles are crushed or whose male organ is cut off shall enter the assembly of the LORD.

Maybe let's not base any ideas of morality or law on the bible full stop.

[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 months ago

I disagree with you about the bible stuff, but I have great respect for how you handle it.

You might disagree with trans people's interpretation of their bodies, but it sounds like you hold more highly their rights to be kept safe. Even if they may be doing something you may disagree with, we agree that vulnerable people should be protected, especially when they're not harming others.

It's almost like there's no asterisk after "Love thy neighbour"!

[-] Shalakushka@kbin.social 10 points 5 months ago

I'm sure as a result you do not wear glasses, refuse medical care, etc right? God doesn't make mistakes, right????

I have news for you, every bigot thinks their theology is direct to the Bible. They're right, it's a despicable book full of vile conduct, most of which is supported by the ugly nonexistent tetragrammaton tyrant you worship.

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