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[-] Shadywack@lemmy.world 124 points 5 months ago

Alright, fuck Republicans, I'm onboard with that.

Living wage, I'm onboard with that too.

Fuck landlords as well, I'm waay onboard with that.

How about we raise minimum wage, but also regulate the hell out of several sectors so that the wealthy don't just consume whatever we raise it to with obscene inflation, otherwise what's the point?

[-] Chaosl3gion@lemmy.world 36 points 5 months ago

I had to scroll to the bottom to see this. This is what happens every time the wage increases. No point in increasing the wage when everyone else increases the price. Can't agree with your statement more.

[-] snooggums@midwest.social 46 points 5 months ago

The prices are rising without a matching increase in wages. The increase in wages has no significant impact on the increase in prices.

[-] Leviathan@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago

It's just about chasing a never ending profit that's higher than last quarter's profit. It was never about inflation, it's the cancer that is unregulated capitalism.

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[-] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 48 points 5 months ago

if you want affordable housing we need to de-commodify it and get the investors out. no more airbnb, no more one investor group owning 10s of thousands of single family homes. Dumping regular people's money into this system, even if we give them a bunch extra, is only gonna drive prices even further up. The necessities of living are not speculation opportunities for the ultra rich.

[-] platypus_plumba@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Right, I hate when people ask me if I want to buy a house to invest or to live.

Bitch, I can barely afford one and if I could buy multiple, I wouldn't because I'm not a piece of shit.

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[-] henfredemars@infosec.pub 40 points 5 months ago

When the minimum wage is not livable, you subsidize their employers with your taxes.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

It's not the minimum wage people should get. It's the minimum we'll accept

And "blue no matter who" means we accept people who think it doesn't need raised

[-] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 29 points 5 months ago

The alternative to not voting blue in general elections is not socialism, it’s republicans.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

No it's not, it's taking control of the party back from the people that only care about donors.

It's a private organization, but they haven't always had the keys, it's like a HOA.

When it's good, no one cares who's in charge, so shitty people sneak in.

The shitty people make things shitty, people accept it because the shits stacks up slowly.

Then one day they're tired of it, and they have to wait till the next HOA board vote to replace them.

It's not as easy to replace the people leading the DNC, but it's doable.

So if 3rd party is something you think can't happen, are you working on fixing your own party? Are you fighting to replace them?

Do you know any of their names without googling?

[-] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 9 points 5 months ago

If your idea of taking the party back is “voting independent in the general” I think you have absolutely no idea how elections and parties work. You’re throwing your vote away. You wanna change the party? Run in or work for local elections. Build from the bottom up, not the top down.

Or just whine and throw your vote away.

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[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 32 points 5 months ago

except democrats dont care either

start building a new system now.

[-] dojan@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago

We don't have a minimum wage in Sweden. Wages are mostly dictated by negotiations between employers and unions.

Unions are important.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 10 points 5 months ago

thats also the reason the ones in power hate them so much!

unions are definetly part of the solution.

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[-] theonyltruemupf@feddit.de 12 points 5 months ago

Fight for a better system but still vote democrats. Voting for the lesser evil gives you the lesser evil.

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[-] Gluten6970@lemm.ee 26 points 5 months ago

You forget that dems vote against it as well: Kyrsten Sinema, Joe Manchin, Jeanne Shaheen, Maggie Hassan, Jon Tester, Tom Carper, Chris Coons, Angus King...

You also forget that a $15/hour minimum wage isn't even a living wage in current year and that's what they voted against. Both sides fight for billionaires, stop deluding yourself.

[-] enbyecho@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

Ah the DINOs. Well two are out at least.

Both sides fight for billionaires, stop deluding yourself.

Nobody's deluding themselves. I'm pretty sure we all know full well that both sides fight for billionaires, it's a question of degree and that degree matters. Is $15/hr more or less than $7.25/hr?

IOW, it's a start... it's progress. I get that the progress is frustratingly slow. But once you have $15/hr you can keep incrementing it, especially at the state level.

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[-] olafurp@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago

I would argue you need unions more. There's no minimum wage in Iceland because we have people who negotiate it for us.

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[-] Melkath@kbin.social 24 points 5 months ago

Which is why when Dems had their supermajority they passed a raise to minimum wage.

They codified Roe v Wade too, because it's just Republicans that were after that.

[-] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 32 points 5 months ago

Which is why when Dems had their supermajority they passed a raise to minimum wage.

Do you remember what they did with that ~70 days they had to pass legislation? Affordable Care Act? Let's not act like they don't pass shit when we give them the legislative ability to do so. 51-49 that includes people like Sinema and Manchin is not a majority.

The vast majority of elected Democrats support and vote for raises to the minimum wage and codifying Roe. 100% of elected Republicans oppose those things, and it's the Democrats that are failing us?

[-] Plastic_Ramses@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago

But, but joe biden and i dont agree on everything!

We better elect a fascist instead just to make sure.

[-] Melkath@kbin.social 10 points 5 months ago

Oh, they passed the Affordable Care Act?

Healthcare is SO available and affordable now, huh?

Then you come in and say "but it wasn't even a real supermajority!"... that supermajority. Not even realizing you are saying even with a supermajority, there isn't one, because it's all the same muddle.

It must be exhausting for you to still shill that hard.

Register independent. Vote third party. It's our only hope to end Party Fascism.

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago

Register independent. Vote third party. It’s our only hope to instill Party Fascism.

FTFY

You're naive af if you think voting 3rd party in the presidential elections will do anything more than entrench fascism into this country and likely solve your issue with party voting, just not how you want.

[-] Animoscity@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

At this point they seem to be willfully ignorant or just having malicious intent.

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[-] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 14 points 5 months ago

Bro do you remember what it was like before the ACA? I’m not saying it’s good now but I think you are showing a pretty stark lack of awareness for what it used to be like.

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[-] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago

If there's no corresponding regulation on rent prices, minimum wage is irrelevant.

Raise the minimum wage to a bazillion dollars? Great! Rent is now three hundred bajillion!

[-] Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee 13 points 5 months ago

Raise the minimum wage to $25/hr, tie it to inflation... Use the $67billion a year spent on section 8 housing to build people houses which they end up owning, instead of shoveling all that money into slumlords' pockets. Flood the housing market with supply to keep the prices down, even as people are able to afford more.

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[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 20 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Don't forget the decision banning non-competes. Apparently the decision went along 'party lines', with you know who Gop trying to keep them. But nooooooo, bOtH sIdEs SaMe.

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[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago

Repugs want nothing less than slavery

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[-] blazera@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago

Lot of dems voted against it too

[-] Leviathan@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

Do you consider 7 out of 48 Dems to be a lot? Versus every single republican?

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[-] scroll_responsibly@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Video evidence of a democrat voting down a minimum wage increase.

[-] retrospectology@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

And somehow there always seems to be just enough of these "mOdErAteS" to kneecap a Democratic majority from doing what they promised when they get power.

Must be a coincidence 🤔

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[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 17 points 5 months ago

There's also an argument to be made for building better cities and more affordable housing (both more affordable and more of it), as well as building a society where you don't have to buy a car to participate. Life could be a lot more affordable if we didn't arrange our policies to make it so expensive.

[-] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

Then we would need to get rid of lobbyists

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[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

Except the Dems have controlled the house, Senate and Presidency since 2009...

I mean. 2021-2023 Biden had House and Senate majorities...

Did I miss something?

Was it that as soon as we had a majority just enough Dems said they wouldn't vote with the party? And then party leaders saying "welp, trying would be pointless"?

Is that what I missed?

Don't get me wrong, it should work the way your meme makes it sound. But unfortunately the rich bought out both parties awhile ago.

It's why Biden and the DNC have their PAC, the Biden Victory Fund, that coordinates directly with the candidate and party, and you can give up to a million!

[-] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago

Like fucking clockwork. Goddamn you're so predictable.

[-] Clent@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

There's a reason the right have earned the label of the poorly educated. This guy doesn't realize a simple majority in the senate isn't enough to move legislation.

It's covered endless in the political news cycles but morons cannot retain the information and spout the most banal nonsense as if they're uncovering some grand conspiracy that they aline have discovered.

If such people could feel shame they would still spread their bullshit because they don't realize how far down left side of intelligence the curve they are.

It would be entertaining if they weren't voters.

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[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Everywhere I see you, you’re fabricating facts.

Democrats have controlled the Senate and the House for six years since 2009.

Only four of those years included a Democratic President.

They were two, non-consecutive two-year terms, a decade apart, with different Presidents.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_divisions_of_United_States_Congresses

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[-] Ballistic_86@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

There is a mentality from Boomers and passed along to Gen X that full-time work does not entitle you to anything. That there are just millions of jobs in America that shouldn’t be required to pay people enough to live in the community they work, or anywhere for that matter. As long as that mentality aligns with the goals of capitalism, nothing will change.

You will hear all the excuses in the world justifying low-paying jobs. “Just get a better job if you don’t like the pay” “Those jobs are only for high school kids” “If they raise the pay they will raise the prices” The list goes on. None of them make a ton of sense if you explore the idea any further.

The idea of working hard and being, eventually, rewarded with good pay has been dead for decades. It is widely accepted that the easiest way to increase your pay is moving to a different company, which speaks a lot about longevity in this late-stage capitalism era most of us are living in today.

[-] Hapankaali@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

It's pretty funny to me to see Americans claiming that a full-time job should be sufficient to have your basic needs met - as if the unemployed should live in dire poverty.

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[-] sweetpotato@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 months ago

You are right both sides aren't the same. But by absolute standards, both sides are really really bad and I think that's a fair assessment all things considered. One has to be better than the other, but both are bad.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

8 members of the Democratic caucus in the senate hate workers so much that they voted against increasing the minimum wage.

Pretending that anyone who notices is "both sides"ing is insulting to the workers Democrats said they totally wanted to help and then betrayed.

The party expects perfect lockstep from the electorate, but doesn't care about voting with the party when it comes time for the elected to do what we voted them in for.

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