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submitted 6 months ago by clot27@lemm.ee to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

Here's what he said in a post on his telegram channel:

🤫 A story shared by Jack Dorsey, the founder of Twitter, uncovered that the current leaders of Signal, an allegedly “secure” messaging app, are activists used by the US state department for regime change abroad 🥷

🥸 The US government spent $3M to build Signal’s encryption, and today the exact same encryption is implemented in WhatsApp, Facebook Messenger, Google Messages and even Skype. It looks almost as if big tech in the US is not allowed to build its own encryption protocols that would be independent of government interference 🐕‍🦺

🕵️‍♂️ An alarming number of important people I’ve spoken to remarked that their “private” Signal messages had been exploited against them in US courts or media. But whenever somebody raises doubt about their encryption, Signal’s typical response is “we are open source so anyone can verify that everything is all right”. That, however, is a trick 🤡

🕵️‍♂️ Unlike Telegram, Signal doesn’t allow researchers to make sure that their GitHub code is the same code that is used in the Signal app run on users’ iPhones. Signal refused to add reproducible builds for iOS, closing a GitHub request from the community. And WhatsApp doesn’t even publish the code of its apps, so all their talk about “privacy” is an even more obvious circus trick 💤

🛡 Telegram is the only massively popular messaging service that allows everyone to make sure that all of its apps indeed use the same open source code that is published on Github. For the past ten years, Telegram Secret Chats have remained the only popular method of communication that is verifiably private 💪

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[-] Legend@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 6 months ago

There is briar . Check it out .

[-] jmanes@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I logged into Telegram today to this update from Durov. It reads like a bunch of hogwash from someone who is hiding something. They are eyeing investor funding soon, right? (EDIT: eyeing an IPO https://www.techopedia.com/news/telegram-eyes-ipo-as-it-aims-to-become-profitable-in-2025) A lot of things seem to be coinciding with him slinging mud about his competitors.

[-] FIST_FILLET@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 months ago

well, this is concerning to hear. i had no idea signal was funded by the US state

[-] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

It is an eye raiser, but it is also somewhat of a red herring. Tor is a very solid privacy browser that started as a government project; not sure if they are still funded today. Nothing is ever going to be a perfect solution (cat and mouse game), but it does strike me that Telegram is more concerned about features than it is about privacy.

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[-] tcit@beehaw.org 5 points 6 months ago

Wait till you hear where the Tor money comes from. Funding is not a direct cause of issues.

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[-] swooosh@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

You can verify builds on android. That's just an iphone problem.

Use Grapheneos if you need good security and privacy

[-] AsepticFuturisticFox@beehaw.org 6 points 6 months ago

The article about Maher is written by a conservative who can't accept that we can limit individual freedom to reach true collective freedom.

Also he wrote for FoxNews lol

Stop spreading propaganda please, it's just a CEO trying to shill its product

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 months ago

I find it weird how any discussion about Signal will inevitably have a bunch of people piling on dismissing any criticisms of it. Believing that Signal is perfect has become like a religion at this point. Whatever people might think of Telegram is completely irrelevant when it comes to the question of whether Signal is actually a secure tool or not.

The fact that people working on Signal have direct ties to US intelligence agencies cannot be ignored. No can the fact that Signal is a centralized system based in US. These two things alone should make everybody very concerned.

[-] sexy_peach@beehaw.org 5 points 6 months ago

Imagine using telegram... It's worse than whatsapp

[-] anon5621@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 months ago

Cannot agree about this.telegram have at least open clientsource code,and a lot pirated stuff u cN find in telegram channels. So if choosing between telegram and WhatsApp.Definitely Telegram.

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