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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 121 points 7 months ago

Israel literally told Gazans to go to Rafah to be safe. They said it was a safe zone.

Now they're supposed to leave Rafah.

You might ask where Israel thinks Gazans are supposed to go. The answer is- nowhere. They're supposed to die.

[-] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 23 points 7 months ago
[-] Land_Strider@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

I'm sure they wouldn't spare any iron dome missiles if the Palestinians went as high as the radars would pick.

[-] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

Israel literally told Gazans to go to Rafah to be safe. They said it was a safe zone.

And the IDF was operating elsewhere, not entering Rafah at the time.

Now they're supposed to leave Rafah.

Yes, that's how it works. It's like how sometimes during road construction, the construction crew might route you into a different traffic lane. Doesn't mean that lane will remain safe to drive on forever.

You might ask where Israel thinks Gazans are supposed to go. The answer is- nowhere. They're supposed to die.

Now this is just plain false, since it doesn't look like you actually bothered reading any details about it. Israel did in fact tell them where to go.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 61 points 7 months ago

And then Israel will bomb where it told them to go just like it bombed Rafah after telling them to go there. Or is that just Hamas propaganda?

[-] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Terrorist group Hamas is shooting rockets from there, so of course Israel isn't going to ignore it completely. If Hamas stopped hiding behind civilians, the entire area would have been left alone.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 37 points 7 months ago

Why does Hamas hiding amongst civilians justify killing those civilians?

How many people have been killed by those rockets vs. how many children killed by the IDF?

[-] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

How many people have been killed by those rockets vs. how many children killed by the IDF?

I'll remind you that Hamas recruits children. Is an unfortunate situation where the children and terrorists counts have some overlap.

Also, why is it always about kill counts? Are you saying it would be more okay with if Hamas successfully killed more people?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 21 points 7 months ago

Why is it kill counts? Because over 13,000 children have been killed in this war. I suppose you'll claim all 13,000 of them were Hamas soldiers. Even the babies.

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[-] Ixoid@lemm.ee 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I'll remind you that Hamas recruits children.> I'd argue that Israel does Hamas' recruiting, by murdering their parents.

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[-] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 7 months ago

Don’t lie to us, and stop lying to yourself.

For over 100 years zionists have been terrorizing and committing genocide there. They killed or pushed out the Muslims, they disenfranchised the Christians until they left. They’re currently clamping down on Jewish people who don’t believe in Zionism.

They have always pushed. Every treaty, every agreement. Every legal attempt to stop the violence has been ignored, or discarded under paper thin or faulty pretenses. Terror is often the last resort of a people who have no other options. (Unless western nations give you billions of dollar in weapons and force other nations to recognize your presence, then you can call it statecraft!)

For zionists and for Israel, the goal has always been to paint the land red with non-believer blood and to destroy every bit of culture that isn’t ‘theirs.’
That’s why they bomb mosques and universities. That’s why they bomb infrastructure. That’s why the West Bank has been split into tiny enclaves. They’re choking the life out of the land so they can plant the seeds of their hollow society on barren soil.

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[-] nogooduser@lemmy.world 34 points 7 months ago

Yes, that's how it works. It's like how sometimes during road construction, the construction crew might route you into a different traffic lane. Doesn't mean that lane will remain safe to drive on forever.

That’s a bad analogy. The construction crew direct you to a safe place while they repair the rest of the road. There’s nothing being repaired in Gaza. It’s just being systematically destroyed.

[-] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Repairing Gaza by removing the terrorists hiding there.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago

Problem: Bibi sees all Palestinians as terrorists and potential terrorists.

[-] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

"If they aren't already terrorists, I'll terrorize them until they are."

[-] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Or claims to. I am not sure that he's a true believer so much as an authoritarian who wants to hold onto power and escape justice by pulling the hatred/religious extremism lever that helped him get where he is (he literally marched calling for Rabin's death prior to the assassination).

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Riiiight ... removing terrorists like all those children in a playground the IDF bombed with precision bombs the other day.

Your "argument" is just a variant of the good old "All Palestinians are Terrorists" hasbara propaganda slogan.

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[-] Natanael@slrpnk.net 11 points 7 months ago

Murdering civilians creates more terrorists

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It’s like how sometimes during road construction

Robert Moses drives a six lane highway through your neighborhood and you all get to eat shit and die.

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

No. They "need" to push them to the sea for certain religious sects to be satisfied.

[-] slurpyslop@kbin.social 29 points 7 months ago

pop it on the list

[-] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 25 points 7 months ago

I'm sure Netnyehu is really dreading the intense finger wagging he's in for.

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[-] ClusterBomb 20 points 7 months ago

While calling terrorists everyone who stands for Gaza and sending the police, which mutilated many people under Macron's regime, to interrupt protests.

Classic Macron.

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[-] bykdd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 7 months ago

so no war crime until now?

[-] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago

No, just another one

[-] blazeknave@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

Hasn't Russia been abducting children for over two years?

[-] loutr@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago

Well yeah, that's why Russia is under sanctions, and why we're helping Ukraine.

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[-] problematicPanther@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

you're not wrong. and Russia is also a bad guy. But so is Israel. And so is North Korea. And so is America. And so is...

The list goes on and on. But this article isn't about Russia, is it? It's about Israel committing war crimes.

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[-] NoLifeGaming@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

Condemnation is good but action is greater.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

Oh, look, Macron waving his finger even more energetically.

That's really going sway the Neue Nazi administration in Israel.

[-] Obonga@feddit.de 10 points 7 months ago

How many people need to die in order for the isreali government being satisfied? It is a rethorcial question as it should be clear by now that the answer is "all in Gaza". It is quite the speedrun to become one of the most despised countries.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

You can safely assume that IDF will not care the slightest. The more Palestinians die from being starved and displaced and getting sick, the less bullets they will need.

[-] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 3 points 7 months ago

It's a win-win then? I mean, bullets and bombs are expensive and you can't expect Americans to pay for every genocide!

[-] Jon_Servo@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

Good old finger-wagging to wash their hands of atrocities. "Hey man, we told them not to do it."

[-] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 7 months ago

France has quite a few W moments recently

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