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[-] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 7 months ago

Don’t lie to us, and stop lying to yourself.

For over 100 years zionists have been terrorizing and committing genocide there. They killed or pushed out the Muslims, they disenfranchised the Christians until they left. They’re currently clamping down on Jewish people who don’t believe in Zionism.

They have always pushed. Every treaty, every agreement. Every legal attempt to stop the violence has been ignored, or discarded under paper thin or faulty pretenses. Terror is often the last resort of a people who have no other options. (Unless western nations give you billions of dollar in weapons and force other nations to recognize your presence, then you can call it statecraft!)

For zionists and for Israel, the goal has always been to paint the land red with non-believer blood and to destroy every bit of culture that isn’t ‘theirs.’
That’s why they bomb mosques and universities. That’s why they bomb infrastructure. That’s why the West Bank has been split into tiny enclaves. They’re choking the life out of the land so they can plant the seeds of their hollow society on barren soil.

[-] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

That's great fiction you're writing there. Too bad you show no actual understanding of the region. It's almost as if you get your info from outlets peddling anti-Israel hate, since their governments failed to wipe it and all the people in it off the map repeatedly.

[-] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 7 months ago

How did you know?!? I have to admit, my beliefs were really hard to come by. I almost didn’t have them!

I read Exodus when I was 13 and I believed it. A few years later, a history teacher challenged me to write a research paper over Israel for my IB history class, so in spring of 2002, I had to work so hard to find anti-Israel propaganda. I didn’t really find any in news media, but I went to the school library, and those people are absolute radicals!
They had books from the 1960’s that discussed Jewish settlers forming militias and attacking “moslem” civilians and burning their family farms. It totally blew my mind that Ben Gurion coordinated terror attacks on British officials in the region, so Britain would withdraw and let the Zionists massacre Palestinians - which they did within weeks of Britain formally withdrawing from Palestine in 1948.
Finding all those anti-Israel accounts of things they actually did was a lot of work!

I got an A on that paper, though.

Where and how did you learn what you know?

[-] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Where and how did you learn what you know?

I kept reading on and did more research to get the actual facts of the situation, not just stop at the surface level.

[-] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 7 months ago

Yet you’ve offered no comment that wasn’t surface level. When pressed, you fell back on insinuating others were uninformed or intellectually lazy. Claims you failed to substantiate.

Your comments lack substance. Your positions lack support. You fail to engage intellectually, and the embarrassment you feel at being outclassed is palpable and plainly visible.
You are naked and shameful.

[-] Natanael@slrpnk.net 5 points 7 months ago

Well you researched in the wrong places

[-] Natanael@slrpnk.net 7 points 7 months ago

Israel has always been the one with the highest body count and the greatest number of ceasefire violations and greatest amount of land stolen.

Are Israeli newspapers peddling anti Israel hate too? Are they?

[-] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

I think you've been reading too much AJ. Wait until you find out about that dam on the Jordan river.

[-] Natanael@slrpnk.net 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)
[-] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Nah, he's got to go, but the amount of misinformation about anything related to Israel is absolutely ridiculous. Especially in places like lemmy, where you have 3-5 people flooding the whole place with propaganda that's then lapped up by people who get all their news from lemmy posts.

[-] Natanael@slrpnk.net 3 points 7 months ago

Misinformation like multiple Israeli newspapers quoting Israeli ministers who spoke in public and checking it against other public information which you can look up

[-] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 3 points 7 months ago

You haven't even offered any counter information. You're just accusing people of lying or not researching when they're the ones pulling out actual graphs, figures, and historical facts.

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