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[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 506 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Judkins said that after the finger test, a lead cybertruck engineer at Tesla said he did the video wrong.

The engineer told him the frunk increases in pressure every single time it closes and detects resistance, Judkins said. It's going to assume you want to close the frunk and maybe something like a bag is getting in the way, which would make it close harder.

Are you kidding me? You did the test wrong on a safety critical feature? No you dumbass engineer, you designed it wrong. Why in the holy fuck would you make a safety critical algorithm keep applying more pressure on subsequent attempts??? That's literally the opposite of what you do for safety.

[-] ech@lemm.ee 136 points 11 months ago

The engineer told him the frunk increases in pressure every single time it closes and detects resistance, Judkins said. It’s going to assume you want to close the frunk and maybe something like a bag is getting in the way, which would make it close harder.

What the fuck kind of idiots are leading things over there? "Something's in the way. Better crush it!" What a bunch of morons putting everyone in danger.

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 48 points 11 months ago

"If it encounters resistance, the brushless motor increases in pressure until it closes fully." Guess the company:

  1. DeWalt
  2. Milwaukee
  3. Makita
  4. Tesla
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[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 97 points 11 months ago

Why the hell would it close harder if there is something in the way? That's not the correct behavior for a lid, that's the correct behavior for powered shears.

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[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 89 points 11 months ago

We built it wrong as a joke

[-] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 51 points 11 months ago

Cybertruck owners can have a finger guillotine. as a treat

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[-] jonne@infosec.pub 54 points 11 months ago

I wonder if the guy that designed autopilot had the same idea. "So when the car detects resistance up ahead in the form of a crowd or wall, it will accelerate to make sure it goes through!"

[-] Plopp@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago

I know I'm old school and all that, but why do people want to pay for automatically closing doors of any kind? Automatic opening of cargo spaces I get, if you have your bags full of hands or whatever, but once you put the stuff in there... Seem like such an incredibly unnecessary and costly feature, that also have a high chance of failing in the future. I don't get it.

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[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago

We deliberately made it fail critical. It's your fault for expecting fail safe!

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[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 205 points 11 months ago

Feel like this could have been demonstrated with a hot dog

[-] Fermion@mander.xyz 97 points 11 months ago

Or a chicken drumstick for somewhat similar bone strength.

[-] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 55 points 11 months ago

Is this the dipstick that tried it with a carrot, it cut the tip off and then said he was going to try it with his finger to be sure?

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[-] CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world 58 points 11 months ago

He did demonstrate it that way, specifically with a carrot. And it somewhat worked. The problem is they programmed it to do more and more pressure every time it fails meaning that doing the carrot first actually caused a safety issue. He only moved onto his finger because the safety feature seemed to be working.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 34 points 11 months ago

The engineer told him the frunk increases in pressure every single time it closes and detects resistance, Judkins said. It's going to assume you want to close the frunk and maybe something like a bag is getting in the way, which would make it close harder.

Geniuses.

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[-] tedu@azorius.net 130 points 11 months ago

There's plenty of dumb to go around, but the word frunk by itself is the dumbest thing about this story.

[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 47 points 11 months ago

I figured that was a fucking typo at first

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[-] Jerkface@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago

Let me guess: Front trunk? Please tell me I'm wrong.

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[-] bcron@lemmy.world 120 points 11 months ago

Man youtubers are dumb as hell. Use a stick or something

[-] bitchkat@lemmy.world 78 points 11 months ago

He used a banana, an organic dildo, and a carrot. It snapped the carrot and then he decided to try with his arm, hand, and finger.

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[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 11 months ago

I think hot dogs are good test subjects

[-] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 29 points 11 months ago

We live in an age where the notion of "thinking something through before doing it", also known as "common sense" has been replaced with the need to get it out there onto the internet as fast as possible before someone else beats you to it. The need for social gratification on the internet beats the need for self-preservation.

The first time I recall realizing this what when another YouTube dipship picked up a Portuguese Man-o-war and people got pissy when it was pointed out how lucky he was to not have been stung and how it was sheer dumb luck that he was still alive

People defended him saying "He didn't know it was dangerous, he didn't know what it was..." And that's the whole fucking point... We used to live in a society were people were smart enough to not touch shit that they don't know if it's dangerous or not. The concept of erring on the side of caution is now abandoned because of stupidity and social media credits.

[-] Halosheep@lemm.ee 46 points 11 months ago

"we used to" No the fuck we didn't. Humans have always been dumb, shortsighted, and curious. The internet just makes it really easy to see the ones that fuck up enough to be entertaining.

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[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world 75 points 11 months ago

Judkins said that after the finger test, a lead cybertruck engineer at Tesla said he did the video wrong.

lmao

[-] saigot@lemmy.ca 31 points 11 months ago

Well apparently it's programmed to bypass the safety system after 3 attempts under the assumption that the user knows best.

This seems like a really dumb choice, but I can see why an engineer would want to point out that it's not incompetent engineering but an incompetent business department.

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[-] ShortFuse@lemmy.world 68 points 11 months ago

Judkins said that after the finger test, a lead cybertruck engineer at Tesla said he did the video wrong.

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[-] asteriskeverything@lemmy.world 66 points 11 months ago

You know what they say.. Don't stick your finger in crazy

[-] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 11 months ago

Title: Idiot Cybertruck Owner.

That's all you need for the title.

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[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 58 points 11 months ago

Bought it to begin with so his intelligence is suspect at the outset

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 55 points 11 months ago

What person with an automated cargo door closure mechanism has thought "stop protecting my stuff and just fucking close"?

I'll admit it annoys me when there's something in the way that keeps my door from latching and it reopens, but I'd rather have to clear the door and shut it manually than it force itself closed and jams the door or break my shit.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 36 points 11 months ago

Its just like elevators, really. You put your hand in to stop the doors closing, they open again before touching your arm. Next time they close gently on your arm. Third time, the doors snap shut and the elevator ascends without further warning, resulting in traumatic amputation.

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[-] ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip 42 points 11 months ago

Someone should tell this guy that hot dogs exist.

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[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 40 points 11 months ago

The cybertruck is the dumbest tech product and that's after you compare it to the Vision Pro and AI pin

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[-] froh42@lemmy.world 40 points 11 months ago

Do we also have something like r/dontputyourdickinthat on lemmy?

[-] nutsack@lemmy.world 36 points 11 months ago
[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 44 points 11 months ago

I saw my first cybertruck in person the other day. It looks incredibly dumb in promotional photos, but it's astonishing how much stupider it looks in traffic surrounded by normal vehicles.

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[-] Emerald@lemmy.world 35 points 11 months ago

The crazy part to me is that he tried a carrot and it didn't open for it. Yet he thought it was a good idea to try his finger which it about the same size.

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[-] Emmie@lemm.ee 35 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This is live example of how IQ doesn’t correlate with „success” though who knows if this funny test would even correlate with what we mean when we think of intelligence in this example

Maybe the greed for views and fanboism wins over no matter the brains

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 34 points 11 months ago

The YouTuber started the video by closing the frunk on produce like a carrot, cucumber, and banana before the update was installed. The frunk chopped all of the produce when it was placed in the frunk.

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The YouTuber then tried the same test with the update installed and was impressed with the improvement.

"With just a software update, the Tesla Cybertruck frunk is way safer," he said. "We witnessed it destroy a ton of vegetables, and then post-update did nothing."

He didn't do a finger until building confidence first. He also tried an arm and then his hand before finally trying his finger.

So not as crazy as the article made it out to be, and his finger wasn't seriously hurt either, but it hurt enough that he didn't want to try it again after getting info from the engineer about it getting stronger after each failed attempt.

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[-] Bonesy91@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago

This is sad. The cybertruck is a deathtrap on wheels and somehow "money" got it to pass any "money" to safety tests is beyond me...

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[-] secrethat@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago

The worst part of the article is them using the term frunk unironically.

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