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I'm sorry, what? (programming.dev)
submitted 8 months ago by pro_grammer@programming.dev to c/steam@lemmy.ml
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[-] daisyKutter@lemmy.ml 109 points 8 months ago

For me the real question is why is there an achievement for starting the game?

I'm the first with several unopened games on Steam, but come on, let's not dilute the meaning of achievement

[-] wccrawford@lemmy.world 130 points 8 months ago

Because someone in the gamedev community once posted about using achievements to measure engagement with users, it caught on, and now there are actual achievements mixed in with standard progress, including just launching the game, apparently.

[-] dev_null@lemmy.ml 122 points 8 months ago

It lets you have analytics in your game (how many players do X, use y feature), without the backlash of analytics.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 months ago

Steam provides analytics already

[-] extant@lemmy.world 46 points 8 months ago

They are used to measure how far players get into the game so you'll often see one for starting the game the first time, completing the tutorial, and chapters as well as difficulties. The reason the numbers are off here is likely that achievement was added some time after the game released and those players never returned to the game and launched it again 5o earn that achievement.

[-] neoman4426@fedia.io 17 points 8 months ago

I remember some games on Xbox did that in a way that fucked with people who liked to keep an even achievement score, award a nonstandard two point one for starting the game and lock the "corresponding" three point one behind something endgame with the rest being standard multiples of five or whatever

[-] dmention7@lemm.ee 16 points 8 months ago

people who liked to keep an even achievement score

Wait, what? Was this some kind of meta game people played, or just some weird compulsion like having to have the volume set to multiples of five?

[-] neoman4426@fedia.io 6 points 8 months ago

Bit of each for different people I suppose, but for most probably closer to the latter, most achievements being worth a multiple of five making ones that don't stick out. Checking mine, currently ends in 4 so must have run into a game that did something like that at some point, but am not one of the people it bothers

[-] maniel@lemmy.ml 10 points 8 months ago

Well, to some people the biggest achievement is getting out of the bed

[-] BubbleMonkey@slrpnk.net 7 points 8 months ago

If you need to get out of bed to game, and getting out of bed is an achievement, you are doing your life wrong. Play from bed.

[-] andy_wijaya_med@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Mind = blown.

[-] Malix@sopuli.xyz 71 points 8 months ago

https://steamcommunity.com/stats/1363080/achievements huh? the numbers show differently (for me, at least) on the page.

[-] muhyb@programming.dev 24 points 8 months ago

It was like that in the OP, recently got fixed. :)

[-] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 38 points 8 months ago

I booted the game up and so far the only achievement I have is the first year achievement.

No idea if it's a glitch that has kept me from getting "start the game" or what but I haven't gotten it yet

[-] argh_another_username@lemmy.ca 15 points 8 months ago

Strictly talking about statistics, it depends on the context. From everyone who bought the game, 39% started it. From everyone one who played the game (so started it) 79% completed the first level.

[-] Biyoo 7 points 8 months ago

On steam it's always a percentage of the people who bought the game/added it to their library

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It actually only includes people who launched the game. This achievement essentially shows how many people actually clicked play after launching.

[-] Biyoo 2 points 8 months ago

I see, my bad

[-] truenekomancer@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

This could be just a way to track pirated copies. First achievement comes from Steam statistics where the second one is from the game itself. This way you can track how many copies of the game are being pirated.

[-] maniel@lemmy.ml 20 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Haven't heard of pirated games with steam achievement support, like how would this even work, you either have the game in your steam account or not

[-] neoman4426@fedia.io 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Not Steam, but interestingly some Microsoft published games will unlock Xbox achievements when pirated, presumably because they built the version sold on Steam to unlock achievements on both platforms. Pirated Psychonauts 2 and got the little under half you get on a casual non achievement hunting playthrough on my Xbox account

[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 points 8 months ago

I'd be careful about that friend

With the aggressively anti-user and poorly thought out moves tech companies have been making lately, I wouldn't put it past Microsoft to start using little discrepancies like that to go after people

It would be dumb, way more effort than it's worth, and likely extremely invasiv... Probably not likely, but I would've said the same about a lot that's happened in the last couple years.

But all the same, in your shoes I'd look into blocking that on the off chance it puts a target on your back

[-] neoman4426@fedia.io 1 points 8 months ago

Was years ago when the game first came out, plus am a Gamepass subscriber now anyway so "officially" have a license (yadda yadda, subject to subscription running out or them deciding to drop a game they own from their catalog). But there's always a chance I suppose

[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 points 8 months ago

As long as you're not doing it now I wouldn't worry, you'd need very detailed information to tell you apart from steam. Privileged information I'd never have considered Microsoft yanking a year ago, but a year from now? Unlikely, but not unbelievable anymore

Shooting yourself in the foot trying to punish users seems to be the new SOP for tech giants these days...I no longer would put anything past them

[-] johnydoe666@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 8 months ago
[-] Mbourgon@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

I don’t know as “fart into a glass of water“ is a real achievement, or at least not one I’d admit to.

[-] sirico@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago

No one's rang the church bell yet?

this post was submitted on 02 May 2024
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