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The United States House of Representatives has overwhelmingly passed a bill that would expand the federal definition of anti-Semitism, despite opposition from civil liberties groups.

The bill passed the House on Wednesday by a margin of 320 to 91, and it is largely seen as a reaction to the ongoing antiwar protests unfolding on US university campuses. It now goes to the Senate for consideration.

If the bill were to become law, it would codify a definition of anti-Semitism created by the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA) in Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

IHRA’s working definition of anti-Semitism is “a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred toward Jews. Rhetorical and physical manifestations of anti-Semitism are directed toward Jewish or non-Jewish individuals and/or their property, toward Jewish community institutions and religious facilities”.

According to the IHRA, that definition also encompasses the “targeting of the state of Israel, conceived as a Jewish collectivity”.

The group also includes certain examples in its definition to illustrate anti-Semitism. Saying, for instance, that “the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor” would be deemed anti-Semitic under its terms. The definition also bars any comparison between “contemporary Israeli policy” and “that of the Nazis”.

Rights groups, however, have raised concerns the definition nevertheless conflates criticism of the state of Israel and Zionism with anti-Semitism.

In a letter sent to lawmakers on Friday, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) urged House members to vote against the legislation, saying federal law already prohibits anti-Semitic discrimination and harassment.

“Instead, it would likely chill free speech of students on college campuses by incorrectly equating criticism of the Israeli government with anti-Semitism.”

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[-] sweetpotato@lemmy.ml 117 points 6 months ago

So it's ok to call students that are protesting against a genocide Nazis but not the people actually committing the genocide. Got it.

[-] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago

It's OK to call anyone not aligned with the Republican Party a Nazi, because it's important that words have no real meaning. Once words have no meaning, the ideas behind them fade as well. This is double plus ungood.

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[-] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 116 points 6 months ago

If the Israelis don't want to be compared to Nazis maybe they ought to stop acting like Nazis

[-] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 31 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It would also help if more than a handful of people in the House knew semitic is a pretty archaic term and would include Palestinians in Gaza as well as Israelis and people from several other countries as well.

Protected classes are race, religion, national origin, age, pregnancy status, gender, citizenship, disability or veteran, family status or genetic information. Nobody gets protections for genocide.

Edit: genetic not generic

[-] Railison@aussie.zone 96 points 6 months ago

So about that freedom of speech…

[-] zurohki@aussie.zone 55 points 6 months ago

That's double-plus ungood wrongthink, citizen. Report for re-education.

[-] rwhitisissle@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 months ago

I get the feeling a lot of our more vocal free speech absolutists are going to be conspicuously quiet on this one.

[-] Nobody@lemmy.world 77 points 6 months ago

Adding IHRA’s definition to the law would allow the federal Department of Education to restrict funding and other resources to campuses perceived as tolerating anti-Semitism.

The campus crackdown is definitely going too far. Vietnam War protestors were treated the same way. It escalated, and the cops opened fire at Kent State.

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

The state guard fired on students at Kent State not the cops.

The difference today is kids got guns and will fire back.

[-] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 73 points 6 months ago

Saying, for instance, that “the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor” would be deemed anti-Semitic under its terms. The definition also bars any comparison between “contemporary Israeli policy” and “that of the Nazis”.

Lmao this is a guilty conscience talking.

[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 21 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Israel is like the Nazis in that the Americans are going to support them up to the moment they lose, at which point they will retcon their own history to say of course they were always against them.

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[-] john89@lemmy.ca 72 points 6 months ago

What the fuck?

Fuck zionists and their disproportionate amount of control over the world.

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

Good thing their silly religious stories will never come true.

Imagine being disappointed for eternity.

[-] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 35 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Zionism is a racist colonial ideology, merely using religion as a tool. Theodor Herzl, founder of zionism, said so himself

“We should there form a portion of a rampart of Europe against Asia, an outpost of civilization as opposed to barbarism. We should as a neutral State remain in contact with all Europe, which would have to guarantee our existence.” Source [II]

[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 months ago

The genocidal world order. The civilized nations see them for the monsters that they are.

[-] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 58 points 6 months ago
[-] Arcturus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 6 months ago

Always the same map

A bit surprising that "israel" didn't vote against it, but that would be a bit too on the nose I guess.

[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago

Whiteness index map

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[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

Always the same map

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[-] maniel@lemmy.ml 50 points 6 months ago

But Nazism is completely legal in the US?

[-] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 14 points 6 months ago

Looking very much so.

[-] Randelung@lemmy.world 49 points 6 months ago

Thereby rendering the definition of antisemitism meaningless.

[-] Binthinkin@kbin.social 44 points 6 months ago

Zionists are also thieves because they are buying stolen Gaza land.

I have sat at passover with Zionists and they are the dumbest shittiest people just like the crazy evangelicals. Just shit people.

Good luck on getting them to admit any type of fault.

[-] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 41 points 6 months ago

Legitimate criticism of the Israeli government and IDF is being actively outlawed in the western world as governments support the brutal mass killing in Gaza.

Condemnation of Russia's invasion of Ukraine or China's actions in Xinjiang rings completely hollow. Western governments really are the people in glass houses throwing stones.

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[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 37 points 6 months ago

at least you have freedom dont ya, us?

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[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 31 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

If this happened under Trump liberals would be up in arms. But it's happening under Biden, so they don't give a shit.

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 25 points 6 months ago

Once Obama got in office, Democrat stans suddenly didn’t care about the Global War(s) on Terrorism anymore. They were silent on his star chamber as well. It was a real wake-up call for me.

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[-] impure9435@kbin.run 30 points 6 months ago

That's what happens when corrupt politicians are paid by AIPAC

[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 13 points 6 months ago

Got your cart before the horse: the US controls Israel, the control Israeli lobbyists have over it is secondary to that.

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[-] okamiueru@lemmy.world 27 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Are all Israelis Jewish? The US is such a fucking joke at this point. And it's tedious to block community after community on lemmy to avoid the noise of vapidness. Good luck with your fucked up politics.

PS: I'd recommend excluding US specific news from "world news". Not sure if this stuff is moderated, or if those who do, give af about it.

[-] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 24 points 6 months ago

The politics of the global hegemon affects the entire world, as much as we hate it. Specially when it's regarding a country they're currently committing genocide in.

[-] makyo@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

3/4 are Jewish which is an overwhelming majority but I also think there are great reasons to separate the classifications of Israeli and Jew. Mainly because the state is not led by the religion but instead by elected leaders.

Though that separation of church and state does seem to be diminishing as Bibi and his far right ultraorthodox cronies do seem to be slowly turning it into more of an authoritarian state.

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[-] NoLifeGaming@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago

The highest order of interference in the US comes from AIPAC, it must go

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 19 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Wonder what other things they'll make illegal to compare to Nazis. Cause once you're banning disparaging speech, why stop there?

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[-] IamSparticles@lemmy.zip 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I'm a little confused why this is in the news. First off, it's just a House Resolution. It's has no legally binding repercussions. It's basically the House of Representatives as a group making a statement: "We don't like anti-Semitism". The definition of anti-Semitism they decided to point to is the thing that's really in contention. But again, this affects nobody but the US House of Representatives.

Secondly, the vote on this took place in December. So it seems kind of late to be raging over it.

Full text of the resolution: https://www.congress.gov/118/bills/hres894/BILLS-118hres894ih.pdf
Summary of action: https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-resolution/894/all-info

If you're in the US and it really bugs you, I'd suggest looking up how your district representative voted and let them know how you feel about it.

[-] faede@mander.xyz 22 points 6 months ago

I have contacted all my reps several times about Palestine and cease fire and the only response has been that they fully support Israel against the terrorists. They don't care about our opinion.

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[-] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

No, this definitely seems different and new from all the recent articles about it I've seen. This vote passed Wednesday, not in December. It's a response to the protests at universities. And it's a bill, so it can be passed into law. I think you're confusing two different things.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/house-passes-bill-to-expand-definition-of-antisemitism-amid-growing-campus-protests-over-gaza-war/ar-AA1nZV5S

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/70-house-democrats-and-21-republicans-voted-against-a-bill-to-crack-down-on-antisemitism-on-college-campuses/ar-AA1o02Rn

This expands the definition of antisemitism to bring critical of Israel at all or comparing Zionism to Nazism, and would codify it into law if it, passes the Senate and is signed by the President. So there is still time to stop this, and it's a big deal, so people should be angry about it.

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[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

These people must know all this does is destroy the legitimacy of your authority. Israel is committing genocide. Its happening. Changing legal definitions will not change how many bodies are piled in Gaza. The mounds of dead children cannot be legislated into something moral.

[-] FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 months ago

At some point US troops will invade to bring democracy to such an autoritarian country

[-] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 18 points 6 months ago
[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 21 points 6 months ago

This gives the USA too much credit. It doesn't invade other countries to save them from tyranny. It invades them because it wants to control them for strategic or economic purposes.

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[-] Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Nazis: "we will fight to the death for your right to speak it!"

Divest israel: "Believe it or not, jail, right away."

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