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Nintendo pursuing Yuzu Forks on Github (github.com)

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[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 177 points 6 months ago

Stop hosting all your shit on a corporate owned platform.

[-] stembolts@programming.dev 57 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I am surprised there isn't a torrent version of Yuzu.
A magnet string would be unstoppable.

Pretty sure I found one, can magnet strings be posted here?

[-] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 43 points 6 months ago

Trouble is that people want to continue working on it.

[-] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 18 points 6 months ago

Seeing how determined nintendo is, I think the only long term solution would probably be to continue development on a code forge hosted as a hidden service. Either Tor or I2P.
Yes, it won't be easy to use, especially for those who are not familiar with this tech, but I expect these to be much more harder for nintendo to take down.

[-] john89@lemmy.ca 22 points 6 months ago

Since they're not breaking any laws, they shouldn't be getting their code taken down anyways.

This could be grounds for a lawsuit.

[-] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 1 points 6 months ago

Lawsuit would not be wise. Nintendo is working outside of the law right now which is where they're weak. Suyu and the other forks just need to move their repo to a git hoster not based in the US so that they're not threatened by DMCA (which is a scare tactic anyways but github is going to comply with regardless). The suyu team is not breaking any laws nor have they gone against the terms of the lawsuit against yuzu.

[-] john89@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago

I think the lawsuit should be filed against Github.

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[-] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 2 points 6 months ago

Just pull a Pirate Bay and use a git platform that isn't based in the US

[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 6 months ago

, can magnet strings be posted here?

Err on the side of caution, don't post it. This comm is already in hot water on multiple instances.

[-] gjghkk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Base64 decode:

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[-] PlexSheep@infosec.pub 16 points 6 months ago

There is and I'm maybe seeding

[-] JDubbleu@programming.dev 10 points 6 months ago

Ask and ye shall receive

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[-] AutoPastry@sopuli.xyz 67 points 6 months ago

Suyu hosts their own repo

https://git.suyu.dev/suyu/suyu

[-] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Unless the donations continue to flow, that repo won't last forever because hosting and serving data isn't free.

[-] Charadon@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 6 months ago

Eh, you can host a gitea instance on a $3.50 VPS pretty easily. I don't think money will be an issue when it comes to hosting and serving.

[-] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 6 months ago

Suyu also hosts full backups of other projects, for example Yuzu, Ryujinx or Dolphin

[-] r4venw@kbin.social 34 points 6 months ago

I got one of these. I dont understand why theyre going after us now. I thought their issue was all the money they were making off of "promoting piracy".
Im guess im not surprised

[-] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 4 points 6 months ago

Nintendo just wants emulators gone. They only use those excuses as a front.

[-] dvdnet62@feddit.nl 28 points 6 months ago

https://web.archive.org/web/20240309174752/https://github.com/pineappleEA/pineapple-src Fortunately web archive still preserve it. But, idk how long

[-] exu@feditown.com 16 points 6 months ago

I recently found out about Softwareheritage, they also have yuzu mirrored.

https://archive.softwareheritage.org/browse/origin/directory/?origin_url=https://github.com/yuzu-emu/yuzu

[-] Imprint9816@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 6 months ago

Meanwhile ryujinx be like "nothing to see here"

[-] meteokr@community.adiquaints.moe 16 points 6 months ago

IANAL, but they should be fine since they aren't decrypting / breaking DRM they same way Yuzu was. They are a much cleaner codebase, much more similar to mGBA and Dolphin.

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 11 points 6 months ago

But did yuzu actually break DRM? I thought that if I dumped my own game and keys with a modded (1st gen) switch and feed all of that into yuzu, nothing illegal would be going on.

[-] meteokr@community.adiquaints.moe 11 points 6 months ago

I don't believe Yuzu went to court, but that was the accusation Nintendo was suing them over. Ryujinx wasn't sued, so Nintendo either didn't believe they had done the same, or didn't care. We didn't get to have a discovery process for the case to find out for sure, so we don't know.

[-] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 7 points 6 months ago

iirc it was yuzu who linked tools to do it, but the application itself didnt do it. Yuzus main problem was often linking to resources and advertising stuff, and partially locking it behind a paywall.

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 5 points 6 months ago

They allegedly also advertised that newegames, like TotK was running better on the EA builds and there's the suspicion that the yuzu team also distributed the keys via torrents. All of these are just allegations, though.

[-] meteokr@community.adiquaints.moe 2 points 6 months ago

The paywall as far as I know isn't that much of problem. Cemu has/had a paywall for years. Several other, though less successful, emulators have had paywalled content/early access as well. The BLEEM emulator that was brought to court was a paid commercial product. So that currently is perfectly legal within the jurisdiction of those cases. Nintendo's case against Yuzu was about piracy/DRM circumvention. That wasn't brought to court, so we don't know the outcome however.

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[-] john89@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago

Ryujinx wasn’t sued, so Nintendo either didn’t believe they had done the same, or didn’t care.

Ryujinx is nowhere near as popular as Yuzu, so that probably has a lot to do with it.

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[-] TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

This is probably in a legal grey area in the US. The Yuzu case was settled out of court because Nintendo had dirt on the team behind it, so it's unclear whether a judge would rule that this kind of circumvention is legal.

[-] Titou@sh.itjust.works 25 points 6 months ago

Why there's no decentralized github-like ?

[-] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 69 points 6 months ago

Git is already decentralised. Every github-like is interoperable with every other github-like. But just because something works together with many others doesn't makes it invulnerable to legal takedowns. Nintendo is a gaming company. They have no problems playing whack-a-mole, as demonstrated here.

[-] Lennard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 6 months ago

Yeah, but Nintendo hasn't won a lawsuit, which means the code isn't illegal to share. They just convinced GitHub to take it down.

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[-] red@sopuli.xyz 3 points 6 months ago

I think there's a difference between distributed and decentralised. But apart from that 👍

[-] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 24 points 6 months ago

There's are a few, but they're pretty new. Codeberg / Forejo seems to be the most popular, at the moment.

[-] PlexSheep@infosec.pub 3 points 6 months ago

But it's not yet federalized. I host my forgejo instance but others can't yet create issues there.

[-] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 4 points 6 months ago

I've been kinda low key waiting for federation on Feorejo to move most of my personal projects off of GitHub. I've been busy anyway, so I guess, for me, it's a race between their clever devs and my procrastinating...

[-] PlexSheep@infosec.pub 2 points 6 months ago

I'm so excited for it. Forgejo is by itself fully usable, but I want to be able to federate stuff.

[-] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Me too. GitHub is a huge part of my professional portfolio. I don't like trusting a single corporation with that much of my employment future. I saw colleagues who relied heavily of Twitter have a really bad time when it descended into bots and spam.

Forejo seems like the logical next step to protect my professional portfolio.

[-] PlexSheep@infosec.pub 2 points 6 months ago

GitHub is huge for visibility, don't underestimate it. I put everything on my git server and mirror my important projects to GitHub and codeberg.org. One of the things I'm excited about is a method of discover ability for my stuff. And if course collaboration being possible on my server, as others can't open issues and stuff on my server.

[-] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 2 points 6 months ago

Yeah. I'll keep things on GitHub, as well. GitHub has been very good for my professional portfolio.

But I'm hoping to get to where my primary activity is on my own servers, and everything is mirrored to GitGub, or vice-versa. That way, if GitHub decides to hold my portfolio hostage, I can just redirect my resume link and get on with my life.