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submitted 6 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Home products retailer Williams-Sonoma will have to pay almost $3.2 million for violating a Federal Trade Commission “Made in USA” order.

Williams-Sonoma was charged with advertising multiple products as being “Made in USA” when they were in fact manufactured in other countries, including China. That violated a 2020 commission order requiring the San Francisco-based company to be truthful about whether its products were in fact made in the U.S.

The FTC said Friday that Williams-Sonoma has agreed to a settlement, which includes a $3.175 million civil penalty. That marks the largest-ever civil penalty seen in a “Made in USA” case, the commission said.

“Williams-Sonoma’s deception misled consumers and harmed honest American businesses,” FTC Chair Lina M. Khan said. “Today’s record-setting civil penalty makes clear that firms committing Made-in-USA fraud will not get a free pass.”

In addition to paying the penalty, the seller of cookware and home furnishings will be required to submit annual compliance reports, the FTC said. The settlement also imposes and reinforces a number of requirements about manufacturing claims the company can make.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 128 points 6 months ago

In 2023, the global net revenue of Williams-Sonoma amounted to over 7.7 billion U.S. dollars

https://www.statista.com/statistics/246591/net-revenue-of-williams-sonoma-worldwide/

Once again, a corporation breaking the law can just write it off as the cost of doing business.

[-] henfredemars@infosec.pub 47 points 6 months ago

All I’m hearing is that made in USA is a meaningless label because it’s cost-effective to simply apply it and pay the fine if they ever get to you. Corporations mis using the label can breathe a sigh of relief. No real punishment inbound.

[-] Wiz@midwest.social 4 points 6 months ago

Hey, that's not telling the whole story!

Made in the USA can mean unpaid prison slave labor too.

[-] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 22 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The bottom line is operating income, not revenue. And WSM had an operating income of ~$1.5 billion last year.

The FTC found seven products were falsely advertised, starting with a mattress cover. But Pottery Barn sells over 10,000 products, in fact there are over 500 products in their bedding section alone. And Pottery Barn is just one part of WSM.

It's near certain that a $3 million fine wiped out whatever profit these seven products made for WSM, and then cut into profits made by other products. So breaking the law was not a profitable strategy for WSM.

[-] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

The punishment should be calculated based on gross revenue from the product. Not net profit. 50% of gross revenue sounds good.

[-] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Of course 50% of gross revenue would immediately bankrupt WSM.

But if you still think that's an appropriate deterrent, what if we imposed the same penalty on cannabis dispensaries? After all, they are not simply violating FTC regulations, they are engaged in federal felonies.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Of course 50% of gross revenue would immediately bankrupt WSM.

And? Is a housewares store too big to fail?

[-] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

No, but causing a business to fail is not necessarily the best response to a violation. I don't want WSM to fail over "made in the USA" labels for the same reason I don't want dispensaries to shut down.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

If a dispensary lied for years about where it sourced its weed and went bankrupt due to the fines, I wouldn't shed any tears there either.

False advertising should be given zero tolerance. And it isn't, which is why people keep dying in Teslas using the Autopilot mode.

[-] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

OK, and if the dispensary violated DEA regulations for years should it likewise be fined out of existence?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

No, because that doesn't kill people in some circumstances. Seems like a big difference.

[-] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Violating DEA regulations often kills people in some circumstances.

It's true that a cannabis dispensary is unlikely to kill someone, but the same is true of a "Made in the USA" label.

If the specific circumstances of a violation matter for a dispensary, then they should also matter for WSM. Dispensaries don't sell narcotics, and WSM doesn't sell Teslas.

[-] rasakaf679@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago

If punishment are severe then the corporations would look twice before committing fraud and deception. If not it's just another slap on the wrist

[-] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I think a fine of $3 million is more than a slap on the wrist. It's a lot more than whatever benefit WSM got from "made in the USA" labels.

[-] rasakaf679@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago

That's the problem the companies don't fear the consequences for their action. If the fine was huge enough to bankrupt a company. Then the other companies will take a second guess before committing any fraud or deception against the consumers like you and me.

[-] breetai@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)
[-] jumjummy@lemmy.world 22 points 6 months ago

What? Sure you can’t deduct them, but if I make $200 million doing something illegal, and the government catches me and fines me $10 million, then that’s just a “cost” I can account for. Make $190 million even after spending $10 million in fines.

[-] breetai@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Did they make 200 million selling those products ?

[-] RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 6 months ago

7.7b in revenue for the year, probably.

[-] breetai@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

On a handful of products? Doubtful.

At least the government gave them a fine which is a step in the right direction. Country of origin is important to me. I buy based on those labels

[-] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 6 months ago

The conversational phrase "cost of doing business" does not mean the same thing as the tax law phrase "business expense".

[-] breetai@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Write off means write off the books. Otherwise it makes no sense as that the dictionary term for the phrase. You can’t write off a fine. It isn’t “written off”.

Real the whole paragraph. It’s idiotic talk

[-] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

"Write off" has evolved to have an additional, more casual meaning, and I think it was clear to most of us that the author you're referring to was using it in that sense.

Edit: Since you're being pedantic, I checked three dictionaries. This sense of the phrase is in all of them.

[-] quindraco@lemm.ee 14 points 6 months ago

Tax deductibility is irrelevant; the cost of the practice pales in comparison to the profit of the practice, making the cost one of doing business.

[-] WhyDoYouPersist@lemmy.world 37 points 6 months ago

That's like, what... The cost of three "Made in USA" Williams Sonoma credenzas?

[-] Zier@fedia.io 11 points 6 months ago

You spelled "three plastic spatulas" wrong.

[-] WhyDoYouPersist@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

For real I had that written out but couldn't remember if they sold spatulas.

[-] citrusface@lemmy.world 25 points 6 months ago

Oh wow a whole 3.2 million.

[-] penquin@lemm.ee 13 points 6 months ago

Poor them. A whole $3.2 millions? How will they ever recover from this?

[-] breetai@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Really depends on the value of the products sold. The find should be double or triple that to have any impact.

Personally I avoid buying anything made in China. Too much risk if it’s something I’ll touch all the time. Too much lead and chemicals in their products.

[-] Steve@communick.news 14 points 6 months ago

You had me up until "chemicals".
Literally everything IS chemicals. If you take all the chemicals out of something all you have is nothing. Nothing as in, the hard vacuum of deep space. Even that will have a hydrogen atom here and there. At least call them hazardous chemicals. Please?

[-] penquin@lemm.ee 7 points 6 months ago

This, quite literally, sounded like a poem in my head while I was reading it.

[-] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

You and I have the same pet peeve. o7

[-] catch22@programming.dev 13 points 6 months ago

Now if we could only get things like I dunno leaking million peoples of private information to the dark web which adds up to billions in lost revenue and scams for millions of Americans taken as seriously... Nah...

[-] JCreazy@midwest.social 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I've never bought anything specifically because it was made in the USA because US made does not equal good quality. When I used to work retail and people would ask me if something was American made it was because they assumed it was better quality and they were racist. I do find it ridiculous that a company can do this and still be allowed to operate. William Sonoma should be forced out of business for even having the audacity to do this as far as I'm concerned.

[-] oce@jlai.lu 13 points 6 months ago

I’ve never bought anything specifically because it was made in the USA because US made does not equal good quality.

Not sure about the USA, but I consider it's more likely the ecological and social impact of the product is better if it was made in my country than in a cheap labor one.

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

That’s a blunder.

[-] AtHeartEngineer@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I'm happy to hear the FTC is doing some shit. Seems like they kept quiet for years, but lately they've been on fire

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