Haha yes. I'm sure it's the hybrids (which have always been competition) and not the unhinged CEO, poor quality forcing recalls, poor progress at self driving to a point it is being overtaken by other manufacturers and a general drop in brand confidence.
It's both. Hybrid popularity skyrocketed during the pandemic.
That's mostly because used cars cost as much as new cars, and new cars were hard to come by thanks to chip shortages, so if you wanted a car you got what you could get. Everything sold during the pandemic.
It hasn’t slowed down in the slightest
It was boosted by pandemic, but the trend is still going strongly, so that argument doesn't hold any water.
Well you said "during the pandemic". That was the context for my response, I never said anything about after.
Your argument was that people bought anything that moved and that's why hybrids got popular, which is plainly not supported by the data.
All the top tier manufacturers that went all in into EVs are reversing their stance and going full force in hybrid production. That started during the pandemic and continues to this day.
US only sales data
I'm really confused by the data you're providing as evidence, as it seems to say the opposite of what you are trying to prove.
Year on year increase for both EV and PHEV with both a bigger market share and bigger slice for EV is what I see there. PHEV has been around 20% of the total (with some fluctuations) since the pre-pandemic boom.
No, not at all. I said everything sold during the pandemic, and because that was evident to manufacturers, they started putting their limited chip supply towards things with higher profit margins, like luxury cars, PHEV's and EV's.
EV sales have been steadily increasing
Yeah, I'm sure it's the hybrids.
I mean that an combined that the CEO is a openly right wing douche and they aren't making affordable cars for middle class and the recent cyber truck fiasco and the fact that they can't get the full expanded credits and the other car companies have made significant strides to catch up and exceed Tesla's autonomous driving. But yeah, it's just hybrids.
Thank you! Somebody said it!
Well, there's folks like me that don't want EVs but want hybrids. I'm sure that plays into it in some small way. Definitely dwarfed by all your reasons though
More likely under pressure from a CEO who doesn’t know what they are doing anymore.
He's bored with it and wants to play with his bird.
Fuck I hope musk gets canned over this. I know the chances are near nill, but hey, a human can hope.
Musk is going to be a case study in the future of having it all, and just goes off the rails, will be interesting to see the final chapters of this chaos.
Elon Musk still in charge, or involved in any significant way with Tesla, automatically rules out purchasing a Tesla.
100% Musk. He owes the shareholders billions in damages.
And the stock went up 13%….
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Tesla profits fell 55% to $1.13 billion in the first quarter from the same year-ago period as a protracted EV price-cutting strategy and “several unforeseen challenges” cut into the automaker’s bottom line.
The company said in its Q1 earnings report that it experienced “numerous challenges” in the first quarter, including the Red Sea conflict and the arson attack at Gigafactory Berlin and the gradual ramp of the updated Model 3 at its factory in Fremont, California.
Despite the downward trend in profits, Tesla used the first-quarter report to focus on the future, namely about using AI to make advances in autonomy and the introduction of new products, including those built on a next-generation vehicle platform.
Two high-profile executives — Drew Baglino, Tesla’s SVP of Powertrain and Energy, and Rohan Patel, VP of Public Policy and Business Development — also left the company.
Tesla CFO Vaibhav Taneja said Tuesday during the earnings call that the savings generated from the workforce reduction is expected to be well in excess of $1 billion on an annual basis.
That revenue source should increase as more automakers, including Ford, GM, Rivian and VW adopt Tesla’s technology known as North American Charging Standard.
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