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[-] alyth@lemmy.world 54 points 8 months ago

Alternative title: How to trigger all Europeans with one map

[-] Klear@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

Czech here, I'm fine with that.

[-] CptEnder@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Czechs: there's beer here, so I'm happy either way.

[-] khannie@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

Paddy Irish man here: Guinness is loved here and would be my weapon of choice in the pub.

[-] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago

Proof that America isn't the only country with bad mass-manufactured beer brands.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago

Whoever even thought that to begin with

[-] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

American beer gets ragged on pretty regularly by Europeans, but I doubt many of the thousands of independent microbreweries in the US have much international distribution.

[-] Swarfega@lemm.ee 13 points 8 months ago

In the UK, John Smiths is a fucking awful beer. There are so many independent breweries that there are many good beers to choose from. John Smiths is literally the bottom of the list!

[-] br3d@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Lower than Carling? I dunno

[-] kozy138@lemm.ee 12 points 8 months ago

Most of there are one of the cheapest beers you can get. I'm sure that is a major factor.

[-] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 8 months ago

I think it's more of who puts most money into marketing.

[-] CptEnder@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yeah def the cheapest and most likely to drink watching a match. Out of all of these I'd probably go with Peroni (Italy) as the best tasting, maybe Stella Artois (Belgium), 1664 (France) as a runner up.

Guinness is probably the best standards, I just don't drink it often.

[-] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Probably most of them are pilsners that taste the same too.

[-] jqubed@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

It might be interesting to look at the parent brands and see if this more a matter of who has the most resources for marketing and export sales.

[-] Darkard@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

No fucking way is John Smiths the most popular UK beer.

My parents and in-laws dri.... Okay, nevermind

[-] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

That's the part so many people miss with crap like this: they're not saying it's the best, or that it's the favorite, only that it has broad general appeal.

In the US, Miller Lite is nobody's favorite beer (outside of a handful of devotees, I'm sure), but it's a beer that any beer drinker can fall back on and locate just about anywhere. It's not excessively high ABV, not overly hoppy, not sweet, low calories, doesn't sit heavy, isn't strictly for warm or cool weather, and reasonably priced.

Demographically, it is drank by college kids, sports spectators/tailgaters, old guys down at the social club, golfers, rednecks, wannabe rednecks from the suburbs, bachelorette parties, rock show attendees, and pretty much anyone anywhere beer is being served.

For those reasons, it's likely one of the top 5 "most popular" beers in the US.

Everyone saying they're local regional favorite or specialty craft brew is better are just missing the point.

[-] kindenough@kbin.social 7 points 8 months ago

Here in South Netherlands Heineken is not very popular. We drink the local brands. Alfa, Gulpener, Brand. I don't drink Heineken, if I drink beer it is mostly local, German Kölsch or Belgian Trappist beer.

[-] K4mpfie@feddit.de 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Looking how I got a Stiegl even in bumfuck nowhere, Canada, it's kinda hard to belive that Gösser is the most popular. What's the source for that? Edit: Ah source is "trust me, bro" Or rather a cursory internet search

[-] AchtungDrempels@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago

Gösser radler sales at least in germany must be huge. Probably counts towards beer. I like it too, gösser radler.

[-] bi_tux@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

stiegl repräsentiert uns wenigstens besser ois gösser

[-] MicrowavedTea@infosec.pub 4 points 8 months ago

I'm not from Spain and always saw Estrella as "the spanish beer". Really surprised it isn't here. What is Mahou?

[-] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

I felt the same way but that may just be because I was in Barcelona.

[-] TwoCubed@feddit.de 4 points 8 months ago

These are all terrible beers. Every single one of them.

[-] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago
[-] TwoCubed@feddit.de 1 points 7 months ago

It actually is. I mean of course it's all about personal taste, but from a brewer's perspective, it's one of the worst actually.

[-] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Having worked in the industry, and with the company that owns the Guinness brand specifically, it's really not. Again, you may not personally be a fan, but you seem to struggle with objectivity on this one.

Even many of the others aren't that bad. Light lagers are surprisingly tricky to produce consistently, since their lighter flavors mean that any flaws are much harder to hide.

[-] TwoCubed@feddit.de 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Edit: I redacted my comment as I don't want to expose too much. Let's just say most brewer's I work together with have a passionate distaste for Guinness, mainly for the brewing process. But that may also be the elitist mindset of German brewers.

I agree with the light lagers sentiment though. I personally despise them but the brewing knowhow behind them is pretty extensive.

Anywho, it all boils down to personal taste and I can find better beers in most of these regions (haven't been to all yet).

[-] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

So it's literally that you just cannot work your mind around separating personal preferences from more objective statements. Good to know.

[-] TwoCubed@feddit.de 1 points 7 months ago

Sure.

Guinness isn't considered good in the industry, plus I dislike the taste. I like the company behind it though. There we go. Shit like the American Budweiser or Beck's is difficult to brew, but tastes like shit. Taste can be an objective thing too, hence why there are beer sommeliers. But sure, if insulting me makes you happy, I'm fine with that. Have a pleasant day mate!

[-] Hamartia@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

I agree that, of those shown here that I have tried, these beers are mostly in the inoffensive 4-6 out of 10 range. Like most things produced primarily for popularity over the art of the craft they intentionally do not push any boundries.

Would you list off some beers that you think are good representations of the brewing art from your perspective.

[-] ritos@startrek.website 3 points 7 months ago

Carlsberg has a special place in my heart because on a trip to Malawi (Sub-Saharan Africa, not Hawaii) it was the only beer available most places. The best part was that all the Carlsberg ads on the bars and shops said "Probably the best beer in the world," like they weren't really sure.

[-] kindenough@kbin.social 3 points 8 months ago

And I thought the most popular piwo brand in Poland is Wyborowa.

My Polish friends from when I lived in Amsterdam liked Grolsch out of the green bottle with flip top.

[-] AchtungDrempels@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

I would have guessed tyskie, that sure must be the most popular polish beer in germany.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

You can really see the divide between wine cultures and beer cultures here

[-] evening_push579@feddit.nu 2 points 8 months ago

Swede here. Just came home from after work beer, I had some Norrlands guld.

[-] StThicket@reddthat.com 2 points 8 months ago

Sweden is mostly cool, but the 3.5% grocery store beer is just sad.

[-] JimmyChanga@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

So is this map saying John Smith's from England is the most popular beer with other countries outside the UK? Absolutely zero chance John Smith's is Scotland's most popular beer, Tenants massively leads lager sales and has high brand opinion. Not too mention how many better beers there are in the UK now

[-] Obi@sopuli.xyz 4 points 8 months ago

I think it's just whatever beer from X country has the most sales worldwide, including the originating country (I think...).

[-] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

I believe that's what the map is saying.

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