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[-] HubertManne@kbin.social 7 points 10 months ago

so us support for ukraine will end up like when the us supported afghanistan. awesome.

[-] el_abuelo@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago

Not to be a pedant but the US (and UK) armed and trained the mujahideen who largely went on to become the Taliban who oppressed their population and allowed al'qaeda to reside, train and plan attacks from within their borders which ultimately lead to the 9/11 attacks which precipitated a lengthy occupation by allied forces in which many more thousands died, and the eventual withdraw of said forces resulting in the Taliban taking back control, oppressing their population and no doubt once again providing a safe haven for terrorists aligned against the west.

I would say that if Ukraine ends up "like afghanistan" it would be a very bad thing indeed for everyone. Russia, the west, Ukraine. Everyone.

[-] HubertManne@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

true. I just found it funny that they would compare that country given they abandoned it do to them being supplied by the US. Agreed though that it bit us. It was where stinger missiles gained fame.

[-] el_abuelo@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

Yeah the irony certainly seems to be lost on them. I guess they just hope everyone had forgotten about how they lost the proxy wars of the cold war era, and are looking for a do-over.

[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Russia did so well in Afghanistan after the US supplied the afghans with weapons and training.

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 6 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The Kremlin warned that American support for Ukraine could turn into a decade-long folly, urging the U.S. to not oppose its invasion of the country as Congress appears set to pass a $60 billion aid package.

The aid deal comes after months of negotiations, with support for Ukraine wavering among American conservatives as the Russian military gains ground after two years of fighting.

The House passed a broad foreign aid spending bill on Saturday that includes funds for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan for a total of $95 billion.

“With the boost that would come from military assistance‚ both practically and psychologically — Ukrainians are entirely capable of holding their own through 2024 and puncturing Putin’s arrogant view that time is on his side,” Burns said Thursday.

“Without supplemental assistance, this picture is a lot more dire, and there is a very real risk that the Ukrainians could lose on the battlefield by the end of 2024,” he continued.

The U.S. and NATO allies have refused to send their own troops to Ukraine, the fundamental difference between the conflict and those in Vietnam and Afghanistan.


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[-] anticolonialist@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

They are not wrong, in typical US style they will just declare its done and leave Ukraine in enormous debt and left to fend for itself

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[-] FaizalR@kbin.social 5 points 10 months ago

It makes sense.

[-] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 2 points 10 months ago

If Ukraine makes it through 2025, I wonder if they could take 2-3 oblasts in an eventual peace.

[-] ganksy@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Oh well I guess we'll just take our ball and go home then/s. Jokes on you, we freakin live for failure!

[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago
[-] mycathas9lives@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

It would be nice to see the US launch a full assault on the soviets. FULL ON. I can dream can't I?

[-] GreenTacklebox@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

slow down there hitler

[-] GreenTacklebox@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Russia's right. From us supporting the nazis in Israel and Ukraine and stamping out anti-genocide protests at home nothing good can be in store for the USA in the future. EDIT: It's sad that the userbase here is just as insane as the world news userbase over on reddit.

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