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[-] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 112 points 1 year ago

Dress codes have always been prohibitively expensive. When I was a young man getting my occupational feet wet in the nineties it was pretty much, "We're gonna pay you three dollars an hour and we require three piece suits at all times."

[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm suddenly thankful my business casual attire can be picked up for like 5 bucks at goodwill.

Hell, for my promotion to my first office job, my previous manager straight up bought me a bunch of cheap polos on his own dollar, basically saying "don't embarrass me for suggesting you for the position". Wore those for like a whole year or more before buying my own for cheap.

A full suit? Fuck. Good luck thrifting one that fits well without tailoring, if you can even find matching jacket and pants, let alone several.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

I have never found pants that didn't have to be hemmed no matter what size my waist is. I've lost a huge amount of weight- gone from obese to the average weight for my BMI and it's still true. It's infuriating. I'm not tiny either, I'm 5'9".

[-] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Must be tough finding pants with eight or ten legs (depending on how you categorize the two arms and eight tentacles)

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

You have no idea.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

If a squid wore pants...

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[-] Savaran@lemmy.world 101 points 1 year ago

If a business wants a particular outfit to be worn then they should provide the uniforms in their dollar.

[-] alphacyberranger@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago

10/10 agree with this

[-] HubertManne@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago
[-] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago

"It's so convenient for both work and home. I have essentially reached a state where the office and my home have become one," she said.

This is what happens when companies expect you to live and breath for their bottom line.

[-] Phoenix3875@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

For those who don't know, it's not quite new (except for the word that describes it, Ban Wei 班味). Because of the long working time, a lot of Chinese companies (especially in the tech sector) allow very casual dressing, plushies, even folding beds in the office. Sounds good but is actually horrifying.

[-] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

'Sounds good but everything about China always has to be presented as ontological evil so we're labeling it as spooky and naughty'

It's just people wearing comfy clothes to their 9 to 5, I also don't wear my best clothes to work where's my article about how I'm revolting against capitalism?

[-] Phoenix3875@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

I'm not saying everything about China is evil, but 996 is an actual thing, actively resented by Chinese young people. I've got friends working such schedules. I'm presenting their views. I had also visited their offices and saw the folding beds.

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[-] laurelraven 15 points 1 year ago

I'm pretty sure they're working a lot more than 9 to 5

[-] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

I have friends doing 996 (which is illegal, but not everyone wants to go through the trouble of taking their company to court when they’re already well paid), and they get about 4 hours of breaks a day. They’re doing about 8 hours of work, with a long morning break, a long lunch, and a long dinner break. Their lunch breaks are longer than my paid and unpaid breaks combined.

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[-] NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

At least read the article before commenting. They're dressing this way on purpose against the wishes of their employers.

[-] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Another woman said the best part of wearing her fluffy sweater to work is that she can head straight to bed once she gets home.

"It's so convenient for both work and home. I have essentially reached a state where the office and my home have become one," she said.

It is not protest for the sake of protest, but mostly "convenience".

[-] NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

You have completely flipped the context of the quote. It's not just comfort for comforts sake, it's also a way of protesting the 996 work culture of China.

The article is definitely stating that this is a protest, your quote is about a fringe benefit.

Social media users have joked that if you wear your favorite outfit to work, it'll be contaminated by the "Ban Wei" as the office vibe creeps into your personal life.

The remaining option: wear your gross clothes to the office.

Candise Lin who creates content on TikTok exploring cultural trends in China, broke down this viral trend in a recent video.

She used an example of one blogger who said that they only wears clothes with holes in them to work to reflect their "crappy job and shabby pay."

Clearly stated like 2 paragraphs after your quote.

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[-] Naja_Kaouthia@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

I WFH and I do the “business mullet”. Acceptable shirt + pajama pants. Business on top, nap on the bottom.

[-] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

WFH developer, they didn’t so much as tell me what time to start my day. I’ll put on a business casual shirt if I’m meeting with higher ups that actually go on camera. Otherwise I’m chillin in my undershirt and shorts

[-] ragica@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 year ago

And yet their makeup is impeccable. Article says "young people", but curiously only cute women in the pictures.

"It looks cute, and yet, you don't lose that feeling of sexiness." Ah, the all important feeling of sexiness in the office that women strive for.

[-] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 33 points 1 year ago

It's worth saying that "sexy" is not translated well in other languages and cultures. It was very common in Thailand and Malaysia while I lived there to hear parents and relatives say their child was 'sexy'. I wouldn't be surprised if it also made its way into Chinese-English parlance as "visually appealing" rather than "I'd fuck that".

[-] wahming@monyet.cc 5 points 1 year ago

It was very common in Thailand and Malaysia while I lived there to hear parents and relatives say their child was 'sexy'.

Can confirm it still is

[-] Phoenix3875@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

The sentence meant to be sarcastic. The dry humor was lost in translation.

[-] ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Yes, most people are not very exciting to look at, myself included, but this whole 'show more mid to ugly people' shit needs to go away

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

Wouldn't it be awesome if millions of people could choose to work in a T-shirt and boxer shorts whenever they wanted?

Companies just have to allow WFH and that could happen.

Nah...

[-] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 25 points 1 year ago

I have to say, I find it weird how focused Americans are on dress codes in offices. In Germany that's pretty much not a thing, unless you have direct contact to customers (bank teller, etc).

Granted, as a developer standards are lax anyway, but I don't even own a dress shirt or suit.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Could you get away with whatever you went to sleep in though? That's the advantage of WFH. Get up, do your work, don't bother getting dressed unless there's a meeting. If you need a shower and a change, you can do it on your break.

I agree that American office dress codes are bullshit, but being allowed to be as comfortable as you like in your clothes is, I am guessing, frowned upon even in Germany.

I worked a hybrid schedule. I didn't bother getting dressed until the other half of the day I went into the office. And I was more productive at home because I was more comfortable in every way including the fact that I could just do my work in boxers and a T-shirt.

[-] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

Not getting dressed at least somewhat is a sign of depression.

When I still went to the office, I wore the exact same cloth I would wear when I was just going outside. Clean, not significantly more holes than intended.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Nonsense. It's a sign of comfort. Why should I get dressed if I don't have to go anywhere? I'll get dressed if I need to go somewhere.

[-] Alto@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

It can be either. Things like thar absolutely are warning signs of depression, and ignoring that is dangerous. Doesn't mean everyone (or even the majority) of those that do have depression, but that doesn't change that it is a warning sign.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

That's fair, but this other person seems to think it's my duty to get dressed in the morning from the continued conversation I'm having with them.

[-] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

You get up and work. Unwashed, dirty clothes. That's not comfort, that's concerning.

And yes, you and your clothes are dirty after sleeping in them. You sweat about half a liter every night.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Okay? Your clothes are dirty after wearing them all day too. I shower and put on clean clothes before I go to bed.

[-] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

... And then you sleep in them, thus making them dirty. That's not that hard.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Why do you care so much about what I do? If you don't like my hygiene habits, stay away from me. This should not be difficult for you.

[-] _edge@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 1 year ago

See, that's why I can't dress nice. I'm not lazy; this is an organized protest to better mankind.

I was just thinking about this.

Someone dressing their norm is catching strays.

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Lmao that’s great. The quotes of them describing their outfits especially

[-] Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Democracy in the workplace. We deserve better.

[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Another woman said the best part of wearing her fluffy sweater to work is that she can head straight to bed once she gets home.

I'm not following this part.

[-] Grass@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah I never wear outside clothes to my bed. Sheets rotate weekly and 2-3 times a week in summer, only get in bed after shower and dry, only clean clothes. Also I have lots of air filtration with random oscillating fans.

[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I don't wear...clothes.

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[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

But I was told behavior like this in China would get several generations of your family sent to re-education camps?

Are you telling me I've been consuming propaganda??

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[-] bananabenana@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Tang ping homies, tang ping

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