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submitted 11 months ago by governorkeagan@lemdro.id to c/linux@lemmy.ml

I've been seeing a lot of talk about CachyOS recently. Has anyone here tried it? It seems interesting and I might give it a go (currently on EndeavourOS) on a spare drive in my PC.

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[-] FQQD@lemmy.ohaa.xyz 21 points 11 months ago

Daily drove it for a year, and it did its job fine. The devs are friendly, but to me the distro wasn't that much more than Arch with some different kernels

[-] RememberTheEnding 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I added the repos to my existing arch install sometime last year I think. It's pretty seamless in that regard, I think I only ran into a mirror sync issue once, and it was resolved a few hours later.

My CPU supports the v4 packages, but I'm not really sure how much benefit there is for most things. (And things like tf/torch aren't coming from the repos anyways.)

I also use their kernel. I can feel a difference between stock and zen or stock and cachyos, but I don't think I'd be able to tell zen and cachyos apart tbh.

I definitely wouldn't switch distros for it, but since it's a trivial, drop in repo, I'll keep using it.

Adding another organization isn't ideal trust-wise of course.

[-] noahimesaka1873@lemmy.funami.tech 12 points 11 months ago

You could just use CachyOS packages on EndeavourOS. https://wiki.cachyos.org/cachyos_repositories/how_to_add_cachyos_repo/

Benefits from optimizations without reinstalling the whole OS!

[-] governorkeagan@lemdro.id 4 points 11 months ago

I'll give that a go and see what it's like, thanks! This seems like a stupid question, but I'll ask anyway.

What happens to my packages installed with the default repos on my system? Will they get changed to the CachyOS optimized version when I go to update or will they remain the same? My guess is that nothing will happen but I'm not certain.

[-] LeFantome@programming.dev 6 points 11 months ago

I just did this last night. I put the Cachy repo behind EOS but ahead of Arch. That keeps the look and feel as EOS but grabs optimized Arch packages from Cachy.

If you are just adding Cachy repos to EOS, you have to install the Cachy kernel explicitly if you want it.

There are not that many Cachy packages actually. Almost everything still comes from the Arch repos. The ones Cachy replaces make sense if you are expecting to juice performance ( including some NViDIA patches in the graphics stack ).

[-] noahimesaka1873@lemmy.funami.tech 3 points 11 months ago

It gets replaced with CachyOS optimized version because it will set the repo priority higher.

[-] flashgnash@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Reckon this could be done on nix/other distros?

[-] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

I appreciate the enthusiasm for another arch fork. I hope it works out for them and its users.

[-] rodbiren@midwest.social 7 points 11 months ago

It consistently ran slower on a few benchmarks I care about like language model performance, which was surprising. Baulders Gate was also jankyier for some reason. I love that people are out trying to do this stuff and the community was nice. Just like anything the reality is often less exciting than the marketing. It is bundled together arch with some hopeful optimizations that I am certain will work for some hardware and some applications, but not all hardware and all applications.

[-] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 6 points 11 months ago

It looks nice on paper, but I have a very hard time trusting most of the distributions out there. Especially now, with all the security issues reported in the industry. That may sound unfair towards those distributions, but really, can you blame me for my attitude? I mean they have a lot of control of your system and they patch a lot of stuff; even the Kernel. I wonder if their Kernel can be used on other distributions and how it compares to Zen Kernel (I'm on EndeavourOS too, but using Zen Kernel).

[-] governorkeagan@lemdro.id 3 points 11 months ago

I've not looked at different kernels much so that would be very interesting.

[-] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago

I'm using it for quite some time now. It works better than other distros in terms of UI smoothness (I use GNOME and on an old machine), the included "fixes" commands in the Hello app are really useful. Though I can't benefit from the X86_64 V3 optimizations since my machine doesn't support it. The problem is that it broke 2 or 3 times in the last year. Some issues seem to be related to Flatpaks so I'd highly suggest avoiding them on this distro. They can do stuff up to breaking your file system (no jokes). So if you want a stable system, don't use Cachy. If you want a faster system no matter what, definitely try it. Some of the bugs can be already fixed but it hasn't been enough time for me to recommend the distro as a stable one

[-] SolarPunker@slrpnk.net 4 points 11 months ago
[-] governorkeagan@lemdro.id 4 points 11 months ago

Do you mean, why I don't use Arch? Instead of EndeavourOS or CachyOS.

[-] SolarPunker@slrpnk.net 1 points 11 months ago

These distros are just Arch with some scripts.

[-] LeFantome@programming.dev 2 points 11 months ago

EOS is about return on time. I can install and configure Arch. For most of the machines I install, I would rather just use EOS since I like most of its defaults ( including Dracut ). Some of the EOS utilities are nice as well.

As you say, EOS is basically Arch once installed. So what is the downside?

Just having to hunt down and install yay on Arch is reason enough to use EOS to begin with.

I notice that CachyOS installs both yay and paru out-of-the-box. Nice.

[-] governorkeagan@lemdro.id 1 points 11 months ago

I have done a manual install of Arch, just to say that I did. Who knows, I might do that again in the future but for now I'm happy with EOS.

[-] 737 1 points 11 months ago

I really dislike these Arch forks that don't add anything really special. The more your system differs from a normal Arch install, (dracut on EndeavourOS for example) the less helpful resources will be available. Just use Arch instead.

[-] FractalsInfinite@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

All cachyos does differently is have repos with the best optermisations applied. In practice its just a faster version of arch with an optional archinstall GUI.

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