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submitted 2 years ago by harbo@lemmy.world to c/lemmyworld@lemmy.world

Apparently there's an issue with some instances banning users for criticizing authoritarian governments. Is lemmy.world a safe place to criticize governments?

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[-] lhx@lemmy.world 470 points 2 years ago

Well let’s find out: Free Ukraine! Fuck Russia. Fuck China!

[-] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 123 points 2 years ago

fuck the orcs. fuck the CCCP. Winne the Pooh shouldn’t run a country

[-] iridaniotter@lemmygrad.ml 58 points 2 years ago

fuck the orcs

hate the government not the people am i right?

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[-] totallynotsocsa@beehaw.org 99 points 2 years ago

Mao Zedong is objectively one of the worst people in all of human history, and his influence held China back for decades, and continues to harm it to this day.

[-] GarbageShootAlt@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You know, I agree that he shouldn't have collaborated with America's foreign policy following the sino-soviet split, but I don't think that even puts him as a major candidate in the running.

Edit: He also really should have given the sparrow thing a test run, and there are other criticisms to make, but these are still lesser than the original one. There was bad theory and bad practice in the Cultural Revolution, but overwhelmingly its biggest problem was endangering the revolution that Mao led to establish the PRC in the first place, something for which he deserves credit on account of poverty reduction, drastic increase in life expectancy, land-redistribution, etc. Oh yeah, and the whole "opposing Japanese and British colonialism" thing, since the KMT rolled over for that, but hopefully that goes without saying.

[-] Dapado@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 years ago

It seems like you've left out the part where multiple tens of millions of people died as a result of his policies.

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[-] Zerlyna@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago

Are you still with us now?

[-] SuperIce@lemmy.world 49 points 2 years ago

I think Winnie the Pooh got him.

[-] macarthur_park@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago
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[-] FlaxPicker@lemmy.world 180 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

i mean lemmy.world server is in germany, but the guy who runs it is dutch so probably has a pretty open policy with freedom of speech i would imagine. And i mean real freedom of speech not the dog whistle for being a dick/racist/phobe

[-] phillycodehound@lemmy.world 79 points 2 years ago

As one of the Admins of Lemmy.World we're pretty open but if you're a dick and unnecessarily a troll we'll kick ya.

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[-] Andonome@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

I still feel like I need a new term for this. Yet another word co-opted by idiots.

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[-] SPOOSER@lemmy.world 115 points 2 years ago

All governments should be able to be criticized if we're going to be honest about having genuinely open discussions.

[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 60 points 2 years ago

Seeing as having the ability to criticize gov'ts is a fundamental part of democracy I fail to see why any social media site would think banning it should be best-practice.

That said I do take issue with some posters who seem to rant on a specific target without any sort of evidentiary data. The slide into "I don't need proof to back my opinion" is a prolific and dangerous thing these days.

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[-] Nymphioxetine@beehaw.org 90 points 2 years ago

Fuck the CCP.

[-] N00dle@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago
[-] Mpeach45@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago
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[-] bostondrivingisworse@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago

Haven’t had any problems so far! Taiwan numbah one! Fuck Putin!

[-] STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago

Lemmy.World and Lemmy. Ml are two different places. Lemmy ML was created as a safehaven for people from subreddits that were banned like ChapoTrapHouse. Lemmy. World is designed to be the general Lemmy Community. Lemmy. Ml was the biggest until the reddit issues but I am pretty sure Lemmy World is after overtaking them. Lemmy.ML is trying to steer traffic here because they know that their community wasn't going to be palatable to the vast majority of people. There's a wide variety here so it's very hard to pinpoint where this place's userbase stands politically.

Lemmy. ML and Lemmy.world are different places and it's for the best if we just leave each be and have our own communities in peace.

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[-] Larsa@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago
[-] Jaded5450@beehaw.org 38 points 2 years ago

Indeed, many Chinese people are very nice. Interesting language, culture, and cuisine.

But fuck the CCP.

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[-] Krause@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 2 years ago

banning users for criticizing authoritarian governments

Please stop trying to smear other instances and their operators with these lies, leave the behavior that contributed to ruining Reddit there or just go back if you insist on doing it.

They were banned for orientalism which breaks rule 1 of the instance as explained here, there's plenty of criticism of China on lemmy.ml that you can find on c/politics and c/worldnews

[-] skeletorsass@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

I just hope people do not spam it to farm karma like on reddit.

[-] thoro@lemmy.ml 38 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Reads the brave, totally not circle-jerked comments in this thread

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this post was submitted on 13 Jun 2023
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