Kiss is still cool though : metalmemes

[-] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 85 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Back in the early/mid 90s I had just bought Death Spiritual Healing, Malevolent Creation Ten Commandments, and Nocturnus The Key from a video rental place in my home town.

Me and a buddy listened to all of the metal I just got and decided to see what else we could find. Then we saw it, it had to be the holy grail of heavy metal! There was a motorcycle blasting out of hell and this awesome bat in the background. The album was Bat Out of Hell and the band was so metal their name was Meatloaf! This was going to be soul crushingly heavy…

[-] Damage@feddit.it 27 points 7 months ago

Well, you were lucky anyway, MeatLoaf fucking rules

[-] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 5 points 7 months ago

When you are expecting something along the lines of the other tapes I had just got, Meatloaf is weak sauce.

[-] Damage@feddit.it 8 points 7 months ago

It's just different, but he certainly didn't lack energy

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago

there are some Nick Cave tracks with acoustic guitar and violin that are more intense, imo, than Meshuggah etc

e.g. John Finn's Wife, Papa Won't Leave You Henry, Stagger Lee.

[-] WamGams@lemmy.ca 22 points 7 months ago

That's a good fucking album though. Bat Out of Hell II: Bat Back Into Hell fucking sucked, though I will admit liking his version of a particular song more than Celine Dion's version.

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago

Bat Out of Hell

Banger album tbh. Plus, not many artists make something like that.

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[-] slurpeesoforion@startrek.website 54 points 7 months ago

When your primary motivations are to get laid, get rich, and become popular, in that order, kiss has it down to an art form.

[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

True. Music isn't the art form they were good at.

And yet are fairly widely recognisable for, em, ~~music I guess~~ that long tongue.

[-] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 53 points 7 months ago

"Rock and roll all nite" is at least somewhat rock-ish. Try "I was made for loving you" that's almost pure disco.

[-] SandLight@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

Speaking of which

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[-] drunkosaurus@kbin.social 52 points 7 months ago

Late to the party, everything that needed to be said has been said. Still, let me add my voice to the choir: KISS has never been cool. KISS is the opposite of cool.

[-] Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca 25 points 7 months ago

This guy things KISS is hot!

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

Stop spreading negative rumors about people on Lemmy!

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 41 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Literally most 80's and 90's "hair metal" bands.

Then there's Steely Dan who goes the opposite direction. He looks and sounds middle of the road, but the lyrics are dark as fuck. Used to only know of him because of jokes about his music being soft as shit, and then I took the time to actually listen to it and I was blown away.

[-] SHOW_ME_YOUR_ASSHOLE@lemm.ee 43 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Steely Dan isn't a person, it's two main artists and a bunch of other session musicians. The band's name came from a steam-powered dildo named Steely Dan in a book from the early 60's I believe.

They made some fucking amazing music!

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 8 points 7 months ago

Fair. I do the same with Tom Petty, even though I mean Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers.

[-] SHOW_ME_YOUR_ASSHOLE@lemm.ee 10 points 7 months ago

I definitely thought Steely Dan was a person when I was younger. Also I wanted an excuse to share the dildo story.

Pink Floyd also could be a person's name. In fact one of their songs even references a record exec mistaking the band's name for a person with the lyrics "Oh by the way, which one's Pink?"

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[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago

It's from Naked Lunch, and it's a dildo so strong it could survive even the strongest lesbian's vagina.

[-] goldteeth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 7 months ago

"My Rival" is my favorite jaunty funk-rock ditty about a guy stalking the man that stole his wife, cornering him in the middle of the desert, and kicking him to death in a strip mall parking lot. And that's not even in the 'Dan Top 10.

And you can't listen to "Godwhacker" and tell me that isn't the basic plot of half a dozen death metal songs, just with more jive and a sicker bassline.

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

He looks and sounds middle of the road, but the lyrics are dark as fuck

Have you ever listened to the lyrics for Simon and Garfunkel songs? They make the most beautiful and serene music, all about darkness, loneliness, and desperation.

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[-] olutukko@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Exactly. Mötley Crüe for example is just lame compared to the attitude they had

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[-] crawancon@lemm.ee 32 points 7 months ago

they've always been musical posers/sellouts. that's sort of their shtick I guess?

to be so gloriously average but pretend to be cool but end up looking fabulously gay.

and their SOUND! sooo ...average.

[-] GreenPlasticSushiGrass@kbin.social 12 points 7 months ago

I was about 12 years old when they were popular, and I was in the market for posers with an average sound.

[-] Damage@feddit.it 12 points 7 months ago

Nothing's average to you when you've barely listened to anything. Many of us started their musical journey with bands we don't enjoy anymore because we now know better ones.

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[-] TronnaRaps@lemmy.ca 29 points 7 months ago

Kiss sucks

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[-] dumbass@leminal.space 28 points 7 months ago

KISS: when you like the look of black metal but can't handle the sound of black metal.

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[-] Doublepluskirk@lemmy.world 27 points 7 months ago

And now we've got Ghost. It's all cycles, man

[-] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 14 points 7 months ago

Scooby doo chase music

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 12 points 7 months ago

I was actually surprised when I first heard Ghost, it was so calm it could almost work as elevator music. You'd never expect that from their looks

[-] loputozirak@lemmy.ml 7 points 7 months ago

came to say the same, kiss isn't metal and neither ghost

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[-] Adm_Drummer@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

They're more in the realm of like... Stoner Rock, Psychedelic Doom and Smooth rock tbh with a large emphasis on Satanist Imagery and gospel. I fuck with that. More like Candlemass type Doom metal than like Stormkeep Doom Metal.

KISS on the other hand was like "Hey kids, we heard you like corpse paint, crazy guitar riffs and meaningful lyrics so we made the opposite for your mothers to listen to."

[-] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 24 points 7 months ago

that pedo band?

Christine Sixteen:

don't usually say things like this to girls your age
But when I saw you coming out of school that day
That day I knew, I knew
I've got to have you, I've got to have you

[-] Obonga@feddit.de 13 points 7 months ago

It is creepy, not pedophile.

I know for most people this seems like hair splitting but there is a stark contrast between beeing attracted to a 16 year old (which only based on physical appearance is very normal) and being attracted to prepubescent people.

Acting on attractions is a whole different book.

[-] Mandarbmax@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

Yikes! I don't stand by my title for this post.

[-] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 28 points 7 months ago

If you pay attention, lyrics about sex with minors was a common theme from the 50s (and earlier) to the 90s (and later).

"I get it up for the touch of the younger kind" ~ my Sharona - the knack, 1979

"She was just 17, if you know what I mean" ~ I saw her standing there - the Beatles, 1963

Girl, you'll be a woman soon. Neil diamond

Don't stand so close to me. The police

Sweet little sixteen. Chuck Berry

Etc.

[-] Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 19 points 7 months ago

"Well I don't care if you're just thirteen, You look too good to be true" Ted Nugent - Jailbait

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It's worth noting that Paul McCartney was only 21 and George Harrison only 20 in 1963. That's a group of guys who hadn't really matured much since they never had to face any of the challenges that we did at that age, and were constantly doted upon. I'm not excusing their lyrics, I'm just saying 17 and 20 (only 3 years apart) is not as creepy as shit like old ass Ted Nugent singing about 13 year old girls. That shit is criminal, and gross.

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[-] guyrocket@kbin.social 20 points 7 months ago

Not at all sure Kiss is still cool

[-] Donkter@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

I felt the same thing when I went to check out my parent's version of a rebellious rock band "the rolling stones"

[-] Godort@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago

Stones are at their best when they lean towards Blues and Folk. See Angie.

Their hits are all pretty mid.

[-] loobkoob@kbin.social 23 points 7 months ago

Their hits are all pretty mid.

Gimme Shelter definitely isn't mid, and is one of their biggest hits. I'd argue it's their best song, in fact.

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[-] kaffiene@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

Kiss is not cool

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[-] proper@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

Knights In Satans Service?

[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Best thing about KISS is the game (Psycho Circus). And Im not saying it's a good game, tho it's atmospheric.

(Something mid way between Blood 2 and Painkiller)

[-] t_berium@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

Seen them twice and still love their Unplugged gig.

[-] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Paul Stanley KISS songs are cool. The rest, meh.

Off the top of my head, see: Detroit Rock City and Strutter.

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[-] lseif@sopuli.xyz 6 points 7 months ago

"I met a girl and I really think she liked me"

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