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The Israel that I meet every day is made up of people who want to forge a path towards peace and security for all

Since the beginning of the war, I’ve met Arab-Jewish civil society organisations that exemplify this spirit, providing assistance across diverse communities.

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[-] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 55 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Moreover, they don’t want to witness further bloodshed in Gaza; instead they want to see the elimination of the murderous terrorism that declared war on Israel and slaughtered us mercilessly on that terrible day.

And Palestine wants its country back, the one you stole. They want to see the end of the murderous terrorism and genocide that invaded them so many decades ago, that every year kills their children and parents.

Thousands of Israeli citizens have taken to the streets, advocating for immediate elections, a deal for the hostages, and a more accountable leadership.

Where are the protests against the genocide Israel commits?

Why do you only protest against what’s affecting you and not what evils you are doing?

We must not allow Netanyahu – who is accused of criminal activity including fraud, bribery and breach of trust (he denies the allegations), who made dangerous alliances with extremists to form his government, and has even attempted to turn Israel into a de facto dictatorship through his government’s controversial attempt to pass “judicial reform” to dictate our relations and divide us.

You voted him into power multiple times over decades, you let him do this, don’t try to pin it all on him. As if Israel is the victim here and Bibi rubbed a magic lamp to get into his position of power against Israel’s wishes.

Israeli citizens are the ones thwarting Netanyahu’s authoritarianism, we are the ones holding him back in this moment.

Israeli citizens are the ones committing the massacres. It’s not magical robot ghosts marching in uniforms, firing tank shells, and raining bombs on Palestine.


Imagine a German during WW2 saying they were the real victims and the ones fighting Hitler. This is the revolting attitude on display in this opinion piece.

[-] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 31 points 6 months ago
[-] TheFonz@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

What are you talking about?? This person explicitly stated she did not vote for Netanyahu. She is part of the coalition that is directly opposed to Netanyahu and his military strategy. What the hell is she supposed to do as a single person. What is the point of your comment? You really felt the need to grandstand or something?

[-] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 23 points 6 months ago

I’m talking all of Israel. The Israel she is saying doesn’t support this, didn’t vote it, excuse etc.

What the hell is she supposed to do as a single person?

She could start by going back in time and not pressing "send" on her poorly-disguised pro-israeli fud mischaracterizing israel's genocide as a war and israels starvation of its citizens as Hamas' fault. Then, after deleting her zionism-apologist garbage, she should stand up, drop her drawers, and kiss her own ass.

[-] livus@kbin.social 47 points 6 months ago

There is no doubt the ruthless leaders of Hamas are willing to starve the residents of Gaza to death for the sake of the annihilation of Israel and the Jewish people.

That's not who is stopping aid trucks from entering, killing medics, and killing humanitarian aid workers. She's refusing to hold Israel accountable for its war crimes.

[-] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yeah, they’re trying to spin this on Hamas while Israel is the very one not allowing food trucks and human aid for the Palestinians.

It is also not Hamas who’s killing thousands of innocent Palestinian civilians.

It seems they’re now trying to spin everything on Hamas while when looking back on history - it is clear as day.

EDIT: for the people that are downvoting me; you can keep downvoting but history does not lie and you cannot bend it to your liking. Israel literally has been murdering Palestinian civilians since 1948 up until today. They never have been ‘easy’ for allowing human aid, food trucks for Palestinians.

History does not lie. It never will.

Note: used the word “easy” due to the lack of a better word (or perhaps there’s but I don’t know it).

[-] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 38 points 6 months ago

I believe in a pre-1948 Israel.

[-] merthyr1831@lemmy.world 31 points 6 months ago

And so begins the inevitable "this is actually just Bibi's fault, not us poor Israelis!" PR spin to try and get people to sympathise with the colonizers who will just elect an even more racist and evil genocidaire to do their bidding.

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 months ago

Netanyahu is on the wrong side of history... and so are you. There are a lot of assholes in Isreal but most people everywhere are just regular folks. You're only a few steps away from shouting about "cultural bolshevism". Don't generalize by race, it's what allows Likud to convince Isrealis that genocide is justified.

[-] merthyr1831@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2024-04-01/ty-article/.premium/polls-show-that-israelis-continue-to-choose-this-war-even-if-they-dont-want-netanyahu/0000018e-98d8-d591-a5cf-9fdddf100000

Yeah the poor oppressed Israelis, who still back invading the last enclave of relative safety in the Gaza strip in their vain attempt to secure POWs that Hamas has already offered to swap for a permanent ceasefire.

Zionism is sowing the wind and reaping the whirlwind.

[-] MistressMaiden@pawb.social 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Bruh why does Haaretz have to be paywalled 😭

[-] veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

What do you think an Israeli can do against their tyrannical government? There are already mass protests in their country for him to step down, give up their settlements in West Bank etc..

[-] merthyr1831@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

Lmao mass protests for a change in government whilst still flying Israeli flags and supporting the invasion of Rafah.

I can tell you what I expect Israelis to do when their government is committing a genocide in their name, but you won't like it

[-] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Was all of America defined by Trump?

[-] merthyr1831@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

Never said Israel was defined by Netanyahu, I said that Israel is defined by Zionism, which persists even if the figurehead changes.

As for your naff rhetorical, Liberal Americans ARE defined by the colonialism, rampant capitalism, and disregard for the environment inherent in the system they support.

[-] Maeve@kbin.social 0 points 6 months ago

Yes, because the dnc gives us candidates like he and Geno Joe, and we lap it up like dogs lap up vomit.

[-] pwalshj@lemmy.world 22 points 6 months ago

"The state of Israel is in the midst of a difficult war..." Stopped reading.

[-] drmeanfeel@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

But have you considered the pitched and complex conflict between [an advanced first world military] and [starving children]

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago

I believe in an Israel called Germany.

Give them Germany.

[-] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 9 points 6 months ago

This is what should have happened, since lots of Berlin stores and apartments were stolen from Jewish people.

Although you have to understand that no Jewish person would take back their property in Germany after the war. Not only was it in cities that had been bombed out, their German neighbors had recently locked them up in concentration camps. Any sane Jewish person would want to get the fuck out of Germany.

But maybe they should have gotten their property back after 10 years or so.

[-] anas@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

I believe in no israel. No peace will be achieved until Palestinians get every inch of their land back.

[-] Toldry@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

Your stance is as extremist as Ben Gvir and his ilk who say the same exact thing except replace "Israel" with "Palestine"

Don't pretend to be an advocate of peace

[-] anas@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I am not, nor am I pretending to be, an advocate for peace.

edit: typo

[-] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago

Your end result would bring peace to the Palestinians.

[-] anas@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

We have a saying here that boils down to “What was taken by force will only be returned by force”.

[-] blazera@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

Dissolve this awful ethnostate experiment of a country

[-] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 months ago

I believe in a two-state solution will full recognition of Palestine

[-] Boiglenoight@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Israel is killing an entire group of people for the actions of a few. In the short term they will be demonized, over generations people may say what choice did they have if not forget what happened altogether.

[-] Binthinkin@kbin.social 5 points 6 months ago

Imagine having George Bush or Putin lead your country into a grave. That’s what Ben is doing. He’s tried this dumb loser shit for 20 years.

Israel is being held hostage by militarist douchebags who couldn’t lead themselves out of a phone booth.

I hope Israel gets rid of him and his friends.

[-] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago

Gee how’d he get into power for 20 years?

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The same way Hamas has been in power for 17 years…elections.

Sometimes leaders diverge from the popular opinion and steer the nation at their whim. You can’t pin the actions of renegade leaders on an entire group or nation.

[-] hark@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

How many elections has Gaza had in the last 20 years and how many has israel had?

[-] MistressMaiden@pawb.social 2 points 6 months ago

Didn’t he literally had a whole multi-party coup get him out of government a year or so ago?

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago
[-] MistressMaiden@pawb.social 2 points 6 months ago

Yes, that’s true, but your original comment said that they gained power through elections. It’s technically true but even then multiple parties threw him out of office a while back (not sure, but I remember hearing about it in the news).

And same with Hamas. Gaza hasn’t had a real election since the 2000s, they’ve protested against Hamas multiple times.

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 1 points 6 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


I am writing this not only as a member of the opposition in the Israeli parliament, but first and foremost as a mother and a young woman in Israel living under Benjamin Netanyahu’s government.

Netanyahu’s government, with its extremist allies, lacks a clear strategy for ending this war, which is resulting in escalating violence, and alienation from the global community.

Moreover, they don’t want to witness further bloodshed in Gaza; instead they want to see the elimination of the murderous terrorism that declared war on Israel and slaughtered us mercilessly on that terrible day.

When US vice-president Kamala Harris was asked if Israel is at risk of losing American support in the war, she replied that it is important to distinguish between the Israeli government and its citizens, and she is absolutely right.

The Israeli government’s persistence in sending soldiers into this conflict, despite the absence of diplomatic objectives, appears driven by a desire to stave off political instability and impending elections – and the risk of electoral defeat.

With Netanyahu’s bloc facing historically low approval ratings, they anticipate that the upcoming elections will mark the end of his era in Israeli politics.


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