If you really absolutely will not vote for moderates, at least vote for leninist-marxist peoples front of Arizona or something. There's a politican somewhere who will see that 0.15% and think "that could make or brake my campaign, how can I win them over?"
I vote, but I can't really pretend that it accomplishes much.
We hand Democrats a majority and all they do with it is find a way to spend another half trillion on war that wasn't budgeted. When I point out that perhaps it'd be good if we didn't neglect our own people's needs, people call me a traitor or a Russian shill. (Neither of which are true.)
And for those trumpeting the AZ decision here, go look at Idaho, where abortion was criminalized and they got away with it. In a year 2/3 of the states will have similar laws just like in 2/3 of the states it's still legal to pay someone $7 an hour.
That is what people are talking about when they say voting doesn't matter, because if you're poor or working class, there is no effective difference between the two ruling parties.
I've got some "they're both capitalism, so it's all the same". News flash: we have regulated capitalism. The choice is between regulated capitalism or the GOP desire of free for all capitalism.
In 2/3 of the US it's still legal to pay someone $7 an hour, and has been since 2008 across multiple Democratic and Republican administrations.
It really does suck that both parties are rabidly capitalist.
Thank you for being exhibit A.
News flash: Minimum wage is by definition an example of regulated capitalism.
Want it to move up? Then move the overton window by telling the free for all side that they have no chance of winning.
You have to give people a reason to vote, man. People do not care if the candidate of change is a fascist when the guy in office already has demonstrated that he doesn't give a fuck if there's food on your family's table. You saw it in 2016.
For the vast majority of this country, the last 40 years have been one long, tortured loss of economic and social liberty, and Joe Biden's presidency has been an enthusiastic participant in it by doing next-to-nothing to alleviate it.
He did make hundreds of billions appear out of thin air overnight though, for more war.
You continue to be exhibit A, you carefully try to avoid saying capitalism but your message is clear. Cheers.
Of course people should vote where it's working. The argument on the federal level is that it's not working. It's not harm reduction because the federal Democrats are too cowardly or too compromised to enforce protective laws and the Constitution as evidenced by reality.
Another day, another dem lying and saying anyone who won't vote for Biden "isn't voting."
That right there, that's fascist behavior.
You don't have to vote for Biden. In the primaries, vote for whoever you actually like. In the general, vote for the Democrats' candidate (however flawed they may be). In neither case are you obligated to frame it as voting for Biden as an individual.
Usually when I read “both sides are the same”, it’s a blue conservative like you trying to make people critical of the Democratic party seem unreasonable.
Both sides are capitalist and conservative, but there are differences for sure. Dont you want more differences?
If you wanna really shut up those people bitching from the sidelines, the best way to do so is to put them in the game! Force them to show us how to do things since it’s so easy and they have it all figured out.
Switching away from first past the post voting allows people to vote for who represents them best while still counting their vote against those they dont want to win. Just search for videos on FPTP voting if you want an explanation on how and why the spoiler effect exists.
Electoral reform is possible in each individual state (for now), we dont need federal reform! Maine and Alaska have already passed electoral reform.
Republicans are moving to make alternative electoral systems illegal in their states. Why would you want to use the same voting system republicans prefer?
More political parties means a higher percentage of the population is representedby their choices in the voting booth. More people involved in the electoral process, more people engaged.
Its a win win win all around for not just the people, but also for the democratic party. More people voting means more democratic votes. The numbers dont lie. So what’s the hold up blue states?
You believe it’s critical to vote for the democrats to beat the Republicans, thus you should 100% be fully invested in passing electoral reform in your state.
Electoral reform needs to be the number one priority for every democrat. This is a existential threat to our nation, so we must use EVERY tool at our disposal. No more waiting. This especially goes for those in blue states.
Consider starting a campaign to change how we vote in your own state! Force our representatives to compete with fresh outside ideas. We deserve the best representation, not excuses.
Fascinating. Your account actually had already caught my attention a little bit, previous to this -- are you open to me explaining why, even if it'll be a little bit unfair accusation?
Usually when I read “both sides are the same”, it’s a blue conservative like you trying to make people critical of the Democratic party seem unreasonable.
Right out of the gate, you've elected a strawman. I'm actually fine with criticism of the Democratic party; I've done some of it lower down in this thread, and elsewhere I compared the Biden state department to Nazis because of what they're enabling in Gaza. Criticism sounds great.
If you want to disagree with my post and argue that voting is a bad idea, please be honest and do so explicitly; I think it will not be a popular view.
If you want to tell me most of the Democrats are bad or that reforming the voting system is a good idea, I'm all for it and would probably agree with you.
If you want to construct a little edifice where you're saying those sensible things while cunningly pretending that I'm saying the opposite of those sensible things when I'm not, I'm going to assume you're in this conversation for a dishonest reason. So please don't do that. Sounds fair, no?
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