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I've been using some cheap flash drives for things like installing OSs and the like, but now I've picked up a Dell Wyse 3040 system to play with which only has 8gb of storage. So I'm installing the OS onto a flash drive permanently (don't worry, just for messing with, nothing of value will be lost if/when the drive craps out).

However, the performance of my cheap flash drive is terrible and installing packages & transferring files is so slow. My question is: Would getting a better drive make a meaningful difference here? If so, anyone have some recommendations of drives they like that are fast?

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[-] K4mpfie@feddit.de 7 points 7 months ago

As a general purpose USB (which not only works great for daily use as a thumb drive but also works with no issues as Linux Live or persistent USB) I can recommend the Sandisk Ultra line. I had them everywhere from 16GB to 128GB. They never let me down. The housing might look like it's made from flimsy plastic but it's surprising sturdy.

A second drive I'm currently preparing for use as a persistent Linux drive is the Samsung portable SSD T7. It's nice and sturdy and the USB C to USB C interface allows me to easily run it on my Laptop without using up any of my precious USB A ports.

[-] nopersonalspace@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Yeah seems like sandisk ultra is the way to go. Do you know, is there any disadvantage to using the "Ultra Fit" line of smaller drives that sit much more flush to the case? Those look nice, but IDK if there are performance issues with the smaller package

[-] K4mpfie@feddit.de 1 points 7 months ago

No I haven't tested them yet. However something I do notice is that people tend to forget the small drives much more often. Simply because of the form factor.

[-] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

I think the ultra fit uses some other piece of flash, I'd just recommend the plain Ultra or the Luxe. They pretty much have the same chip inside iirc

[-] Lemongrab@lemmy.one 1 points 7 months ago

Here is one ultra sandisk for $12 per 256gb https://wwamazon.com/dp/B07SYRW97F/

[-] hperrin@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Yes, getting a better flash drive will get you better performance. Make sure you get a good USB 3 drive, and plug it into a USB 3 port. I’ve always had good experiences with SanDisk drives. Avoid the off brand drives. They’re often really bad or even fake.

[-] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

There are some fancy ones with SSD-features like wear leveling, though i don't know which.

But why not a NVME USB enclosure?

Thumbdrive as main disk does work, but once i trashed a SD-card-as-home with compiling something, i gave up on the idea.

[-] dan@upvote.au 3 points 7 months ago

Do you have a spare SATA SSD? This is my go-to USB cable for connecting SATA SSDs via USB: https://a.co/d/dQ5QXR1. Works well on Raspberry Pi and it'd work well on a thin client too.

Note that the Wyse systems don't have much CPU power as they're designed to be used as thin clients (where nothing runs on the system other than remote desktop connecting to a server somewhere). That's why they have so little space - they were never designed to run a full OS.

[-] Paragone@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

SanDisk usb-keys work.

You really want to use the thing for read-only, though, if you can:

the writes it takes to kill some portion of a filesystem, vs the writes you get before corrupting things, on a USB driver, don't line-up.

Use NVMe as your 1st-choice for storage ( future purchases, obviously ), the fastest you can get, and be stunned by how much faster the same motherboard is, with superfast OS storage..


I'd stick /home, not /usr, on the USB.

[-] Decronym@lemmy.decronym.xyz 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:

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NVMe Non-Volatile Memory Express interface for mass storage
SATA Serial AT Attachment interface for mass storage
SSD Solid State Drive mass storage

3 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 10 acronyms.

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[-] waspentalive@lemmy.one 1 points 7 months ago

I wonder if you can replace the storage element with something bigger. It might be a data drive or an M.2 drive. You could replace either with a bigger device.

[-] nopersonalspace@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Yeah, sadly it does have a M.2 slot but it's not SATA or NVMe, but instead SDIO. Someone out there has actually made an adapter that lets you put an sd card into that slot, which is super cool. But probably no better that a flash drive realistically, and much more expensive (you have to get the adapter manufactured)

[-] waspentalive@lemmy.one 1 points 7 months ago

Well, at least it has a USB3 slot - you could put a NVME drive in a USB3 external case and boot that way.

[-] Peffse@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

I'm curious, the current flash drive you are using... does it allow paging files? I would figure flash media would be marked portable to the OS and not allow page files to be used.

[-] nopersonalspace@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

How would I check that?

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