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The attacks claimed the lives of an Indiana woman and an Oregon man, both cisgender people.

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[-] FuriousLing@lemmy.world 62 points 1 year ago

This is just disgusting. Those people were just minding their own business, and these fucking psychos just couldn't leave them alone. The state of the world is depressing af.

[-] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The GOP/Nazi party members at it again. You can always tell when they are at work. They are so damn stupid.

[-] Coach@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is no longer a "hate crime" issue. The Republicans have created a terrorist organization. These people are terrorists and should be treated as such.

[-] SamXavia@kbin.social 44 points 1 year ago

@stopthatgirl7 The problem is people just want to get in the way of me and other Trans people from living our lives, it doesn't help they are literally trying to kill us as well as allies around us. Thank you for all the allies that do stand by our side, we are sorry you have to suffer the same pain for standing up for us being ourselves.

[-] TheDoctorDonna@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

If we don't stand at your side then all we do is lend legitimacy to their side. We are all brothers and sisters in the fight against hate. We fight together and we either win together or die trying because if we don't win then this world isn't worth being a part of anyways. ❤️

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[-] mojo@lemm.ee 35 points 1 year ago

Republicans have no issue sacrificing people (especially kids in schools) for political gain.

[-] ModdedPhones@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 year ago

Check out your local John Brown gun club

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

The woman in Indiana was killed in the gazebo of her own apartment complex by a neighbor. I don't think it should be necessary to carry a gun when you're in a place like that. We shouldn't have to be armed every time we so much as step out of our front door. That is not a society I want to live in.

[-] ModdedPhones@lemmy.ml 34 points 1 year ago

Me neither but here we are. Arm yourselves , the enemy is doing it.

[-] lasagna@programming.dev 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Security services have been warning us of inhouse terrorism for years. This is what we are seeing now.

The US for one could just stop their war on drugs, which has been ravaging the world for decades, and only has like 1% efficacy, and use that money in programs to prevent this. But unfortunately we no longer live in times where reason rules.

Zero-sum ideologies have taken over. We live in societies where other people's gain are seen as our loss. And then what we get are huge society splits which will eventually and inevitably be the end of that society as it was.

[-] ModdedPhones@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

(they left) US have made some progress in the war on drugs at least.

[-] curiouscuriosity@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

While that's probably a joke, it should be said that even this is actually thanks to Taliban?

[-] ModdedPhones@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 year ago

Yea, the US helped the war on drugs by selling less heroin. Who was guarding and smuggling it out? Poppy fields inreacesd dramatically during the occupation and dropped after. The US is a mayor part of the dugtrade

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[-] BeardedPip@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

This framing is disgusting. Who writes a headline this terrible?

[-] Norgur@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

But why does it matter if the victims were cis people or not?

[-] Klear@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago

It highlights an extra layer of stupid.

[-] Laticauda@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There's this delusion amongst transphobes that they can "always clock a tranny" and that they're never wrong when they decide that someone is secretly trans because they have a more prominent Adam's apple or something equally stupid. Of course the truth is that they're wrong constantly and are just idiot bigots, which this illustrates rather poignantly unfortunately. They don't really know who is or isn't trans, they just want to pretend they know so they can feel vindicated by "recognizing" trans people, and they convince themselves that trans people can never truly blend in to society. Because if trans people really were capable of being indistinguishable from cis people, then that would mean that at some point they might have, gasp, treated a trans person like a human being and used the proper pronouns. The horror.

Of course trans people shouldn't have to blend in, they shouldn't have to pass to be treated as the gender they identify as, or with basic human decency.

[-] CileTheSane@kbin.social 34 points 1 year ago

It's not just Trans people, it's people who aren't masculine or feminine enough. The bigots are fine with this.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 35 points 1 year ago

It shows how someone's irrational hatred of a specific group can also harm people not part of that group.

[-] Makeshift@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 year ago

It shows people that it's not just trans people at risk due to this violent rhetoric the right spews. Everyone is at risk of being targeted even if they are perceived as trans.

I'm a cis man, but I don't have the deepest voice, and I've been worried about this kind of thing happening for a while since I live in the south, and it looks like I was right to worry.

[-] ModdedPhones@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 year ago

It's never about one group. It's about all opposing the status quo . Fascist change targets based on what gives them power. Power over everyone.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

It shows people that it’s not just trans people at risk due to this violent rhetoric the right spews. Everyone is at risk of being targeted even if they are perceived as trans.

The guy in Oregon was stabbed while defending his trans friend.

[-] Makeshift@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

Yes I know, I read the article. I was referring to the first incident with the perception remark, but it still makes sense to include it in the headline with the second scenario for clarity's sake

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 15 points 1 year ago

All the other responses have been good but I think it helps to show to slightly more "moderate" transphobia who wouldn't kill transfolks themselves but don't think anti-trans rhetoric is that bad by showing that they themselves are also in danger.

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