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theres still not enough suffering in the world, give us more!
the collective american political apparatus
Well it's a one party dictatorship, and even though the sanctions at first might not have been for a good reason, the responsibility lies on the Cuban leadership.
when you definitely understand what the word dictatorship means 😂
i mean, cuba is a dictatorship of the proletariat. libs just think thats a bad thing.
well yeah because libs are just temporarily inconvenienced billionaires
Meh, can you really say that it's the proletarian dictatorship anymore when Cuba now has a privileged elite defending it's grip on power against the poor majority? It's more like they have become the bourgeoisie.
cuba is literally the most egalitarian nation in the americas. what are you talking about?
How do you mean it is egalitarian?
in the sense of the abolishment of class oppression
Ah okey ^^ but that's my point. The revolution abolished the then existing classes but now the party has cemented into the now ruling class. They enjoy the privileges and aggregate all the power to themselves where the now again born under class can't do anything. I understand what you mean but I think we have to see Cuba for the state its in, not the promise of what it would become.
im sorry, but you have been propagandized. the things you said are nothing but mere repetitions of cia lies about cuba, parroted since the 60s. please try learning about the actual conditions in cuba before and after the revolution before giving any statements.
no investigation no right to speak
Well I'm not going to travel to Cuba for the sake of an internet discussion xD But it is true that political opposition is forbidden and the only allowed party is the communist, right?
opposition to progressive ideas must necessarily be reactionary. the liberal multy party system is a scam and was rightfully replaced by the democratic centralism of the communist party. all decisions are made by the workers through democratic processes.
But how democratic is the process really if there's no platform to voice different opinions (not saying that once a decision is reach not everyone should adhere it) and to form an independent opinion? It's agree with us or else.
I can't say I know how many of the Cubans are party members but I guess it's not a majority of the population? And that's what I mean when I say that the political power is aggregated to the party. Even if there was a free debate inside the party they still don't allow competition for the power, just like the income or wealth limitations functioned to keep the proletariat away from power in the early days of democracy.
No youll just travel there for cheap top notch healthcare I'm sure
Sorry, what? :P
you are being criticized for using the word "dictatorship" in a liberal sense, a sense that doesnt respect material reality due to being idealist.
Ah thanks. Maybe should have used the proper authoritarian. Dictatorship is just a much easier and more widely recognized term no?
well, every state is authoritarian. thats part of the self preservation of any governance, be it progressive or reactionary. if you wanna abolish states alltogether ask the anarchists, since i am an ml and think that authoritarian measures are good for the liberation of mankind.
Haha yeah in a sense maybe. But the authoritarian meaning is that there's no free or equal competition for the power so I mean there's quite a difference between states where there are authoritan and democratic countries.
How is the US engaging in a blockade around a country with a popular government the fault of the Cuban leadership?
Yeah they should've had a dictatorship of two genocidal imperialist parties instead like the US
Exact same logic Israel uses to starve Gaza.
How so?
Sanctions are always meant as collective punishment, it's a siege warfare tactic. The goal is to torture innocent Cuban people for not overthrowing their government, starve them until they have no choice but to destroy the revolution. America has even directly admitted it:
This is the same policy as in Gaza, to starve the people until they turn their backs on the enemy.
That is not entirely true. It depends on the kinds of sanctions. This is why modern sanctions have shifted from punishing the citizens in hope of them rising against the regime to pin targeting the leaders and the ruling class.
The catastrophe and starvation in Iraq (I think it was Iraq) changed how sanctions were used.
Does that have fucking anything to do with Cuba?
Well you claimed that sanctions always are meant as a collective punishment?
Sanctions on economies are collective punishment.
You've sidestepped the problem, which is that there is a siege war being waged on Cuba and they've done nothing to deserve it.
Well it’s a one party dictatorship
Yes, the dictatorship of the party of the working class, or in other words a proletarian democracy.
Meanwhile, whether one party or two or a hundred, we have a dictatorship of the capitalist class, or in other words a bourgeois democracy.
The communist party in Cuba (like every other party) can't "advertise" itself, it's in the constitution ffs. If you wanted to pick a socialist country to portray as a "one party scary dictatorship" Cuba is the least fit. Cuba is a zero-party democracy in a way.
Obvious troll is obvious. If the overwhelming number of Cuban people really and truly didn't support socialism. Then they would have taken over in a new revolution as they did getting rid of the US puppet state the last time. They have stood firm despite the literal attempts of US lead colour revolutions and refuse to be forced to bow to the self-appointed global police state that is the US. They aren't the ones that should change to serve the rich fucks that steal from nations across the world. It is those rich fucks that should be put in the dirt so that peoples across the world could live their lives without fear.
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