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submitted 1 year ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

'They were moving me all around and I had a broken neck.'

Imagine falling and breaking your neck, but no one takes you to the hospital right away.

That’s exactly what a local woman says happened to her inside the St. Clair County Jail and now she’s trying to make sure something like this doesn’t happen to anyone else.

Lisa Brown takes full responsibility for why she ended up briefly behind bars. But now she says a 20-day jail sentence has left her with a life sentence of partial paralysis and disability.

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[-] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 202 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

None of this is accidental or a failure of the system. The system works as designed.

[-] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 139 points 1 year ago

Correct. Im friendly with a CO who regularly gets derided for taking inmates to the infirmary when they say they're sick. The CO cultural MO seems to be everyone's faking it unless you can see blood or bone. The dudes proactivity has stopped what could have been a major flu outbreak and still they ride his ass when he brings sick inmates to the infirmary. Even the doctors working there dont like that he brings sick patients to them. It's rotten apples almost all the way down.

[-] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Even the doctors working there dont like that he brings sick patients to them. It’s rotten apples almost all the way down.

That's mega fucked, wow. ADAB? Nah, I wouldn't go that far.

[-] bl_r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 year ago

My aunt is a doctor in a prison. She hates how long it will take for some people to be seen, sometimes because the guards just don’t think it’s a problem warranting taking them to the infirmary.

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 83 points 1 year ago

Hopefully she wins a lawsuit

[-] yuriy@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago

In a perfect world the payout fucking destroys this police force and a new one is built from the ground up.

Realistically something as bad if not worse will happen there within a year. 50/50 whether it even makes news.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

The taxpayers are gonna lose millions while the cops responsible for this suffer no consequences whatsoever. And any politician trying to hold them responsible will be treated as being "weak on crime."

[-] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

The taxpayers are gonna lose millions while the cops responsible for this suffer no consequences whatsoever.

That's the really disgusting part. It's disgusting they designed a system like this, and that the system is working as designed. This is not an oversight. This is intentional.

[-] kumatomic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 78 points 1 year ago
[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago

Prison reform is critical

[-] Virgo@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago

Imagine living with the sound of gritty grinding reverberating through your skull from shattered vertebrae for three days

And all that for a 20 day sentence

[-] ChocoboRocket@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

It's absolutely about the cruelty.

Realistically, if they took her to the hospital wouldn't she wind up with an absolutely eye watering hospital bill? One that would likely take her the rest of her life to pay off?

Instead, they calculated that the outcome of denied medical care would cost this person more than a lifetime of medical debt - even if the lawsuit against them paid out.

[-] Azzu@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago

It's not that involved I don't think. It's simply sadism.

[-] Darrell_Winfield@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

I'm usually one to discount news stories for being dramatic and misleading, but this one is pretty rough. Unsure how she fell in the first place, but the video of her on the floor with the pointed toes is rough to watch. That's a hard one to fake, and is a clear sign of spinal trauma.

[-] Classy@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago

The article states clearly how she fell. She was sleeping on the top bunk in her cell, about 6' off the ground, and apparently she rolled off and hit the ground, causing a cervical fracture.

[-] Darrell_Winfield@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Right, I read that part. I'm not very knowledgeable on the topic, but wouldn't a top bunk have a railing?

For what it's worth, I've seen plenty of inmates who "fell from the top bunk" and they have obvious knuckle marks on their cheeks from being punched. So I'm a little suspicious of those kinds of "falls".

[-] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Railing on the top bunk could be a hanging risk.

Depends on the type of cell they were housed in. May have been an observation or dry cell.

[-] Zarxrax@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Only time I've ever heard of bunk beds having railing is for little kid beds.

[-] BlitzoTheOisSilent@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It's been 11 years, but I'm almost positive our bunks in bootcamp had railings on at least the top bunk. I was Navy, other branches may have been different, but they're not just for little kids.

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

Stories like this is why I find it plausible that Epstein killed himself in jail.

Jails are full of incompetent, cruel workers. They use outdated tech, and don't properly maintain it. Unfortunately, someone dying or killing themselves in jail, even if they're under a suicide watch, even if they're a prominent figure, is all too easy to believe.

[-] Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Just another day in the shitter multiverse

[-] ManniSturgis@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago

I hate these sob story videos American news stations make of these things. I don't need to see this lady struggling to figure out that this is a horrible thing.

[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

"now she's trying to..." what? I thought that when you break your neck that's it, lights go out end of show. How did she end up trying to do anything?

[-] Mrderisant@midwest.social 24 points 1 year ago

Oh no. It depends on if any/which nerves are crushed/cut.

[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

So she literally had to hold her head around to do anything the entire time? That's crazy. I'm guessing she just stood there motionless on the floor the entire time. That's what I would do to prevent pain if you move the wrong way.

[-] BreakDecks@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago

I know it's tempting to rationalize something this evil as being fake. It would be nice if it were. But these kinds of comments just serve to further deny humanity to people who end up this badly mistreated.

[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I had sciatica pain and the best way to avoid it was to just not move my legs. Otherwise it was like normal normal....oh you're dying from the pain, then back to normal. So I'm guessing that's how it feels on the neck with a nerve injury that produces pain.

[-] OftenWrong@startrek.website 4 points 1 year ago

She had a broken fucking neck. It's not up for debate. Just stop.

[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I totally don't think it's fake. I was more interested as to how the heck she got out of that situation. Like another commenter said, the injury varies, but maybe if you move it gets worse. But like somebody must have found her on the floor and helped her? I'm thinking maybe somebody found her on the floor then called paramedics? Because otherwise maybe she wouldn't have had a chance at all.

[-] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's not how every spinal injury works. It's honestly roll of the dice every time and different for every individual. It can rang from tingling in one or more limbs, extreme pain, loss of control of all voluntary movements, to death.

[-] Classy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

There are multiple components running through your neck that coincide with the spinal column. Nerves, blood vessels, the larynx, muscles, all kinds of things. Traumatic injury to the neck can break one or many of those things and not all in the same way, even with similarly natured injuries.

Someone could break the bones in their neck while maintaining an intact nervous system and not lose the ability to move around, or someone else can snap their nerves or puncture their larynx and suffocate. It all depends.

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