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So I checked out reddit after a long time and was going through the top of r/videogames subreddit and I could clearly see a pattern in most of the posts there. Posts were mostly like "what game ______ for you?" or "what game _____ like this?" Now I could be wrong but it doesn't feel 'organic' (if that's correct way to put it). It's like these are put up intentionally. Thoughts?

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[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 195 points 6 months ago

These are engagement farming posts. Both reddit and Twitter are full of them, because both sites are now offering money to accounts whose posts get lots of upvotes/comments.

It feels gross and inauthentic.

[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 56 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Something similar happened to Quora when they started offering to pay people just to produce questions, not good questions, not answers, just questions. Quora was already kinda tenuous and growing its tolerance for fascists, but that move dropped a cinder block on the enshittification gas pedal. Quota's basically been completely unusable since then and it's only gotten worse.

Edit: wrote Quota instead of Quora, but I like the typo's energy, so I'm leaving it.

[-] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 17 points 6 months ago

Some of them read like content farming posts-get a bunch of people to talk about a given topic with a specific direction, then “write” an article that is basically “video games are crazy, aren’t they? Here’s some really crazy video game stories!

[five word intro] [full text of a Reddit comment] [repeat ad nauseam]”

[-] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 12 points 6 months ago

I don't even know how much of a role the monetary aspect has. I feel like a lot of Reddit is naturally gross and inauthentic but also soulless and elitist in a way. People still post content because they want the Reddit karma and rehash the same prompts that gives the same predictable answers that seem to appease the crowd. Other times when things are reposted comments will act harshly and and redirect them to a post or wiki from years ago.

Reddit, to me, seems to lack genuine human interactions.

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[-] thisisbutaname@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 6 months ago

My thoughts exactly. Kinda like how some tiktoks/reels/shorts are specifically crafted to make you watch them over and over again to drive up viewing time.

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[-] Seraph@kbin.social 48 points 6 months ago

Dead Internet Theory at work.

The internet has a grim future and it doesn't involve you and I interacting if they get their way.

[-] GardenVarietyAnxiety@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

That part of the Internet can die and rot...

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[-] taiyang@lemmy.world 47 points 6 months ago

You can blame bots, but having also worked as a soul crushing social media manager for a few months, you make shit like this to get karma (or on other media, interactions.) Humans deserve some blame!

That said the greatest irony is a toooon of the votes and comments are also bots and/or shills. The weirdest thing I found success on with Twitter, for instance, was wishing people a good morning, using a company account. Weirdly drove profile traffic and follows. >.>

[-] Ashtear@lemm.ee 16 points 6 months ago

Yeah, there's a reason why Youtube thumbnails have all that weird shit. It works.

[-] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 41 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Karma bots making low effort shitposts because our dumb monkey brains will upvote it. it happened before but you ignored it because you cared enough about the organic engagement on the community and mods did enough to try to stop that behavior

Now that Reddit removed mods that actually did their jobs and you’re one of us, it’s all you can think about

[-] Blaze@dormi.zone 34 points 6 months ago

You are not the only one noticing it. Probably trying to maximize the user provided content they can sell to language model creators

[-] joenforcer@midwest.social 26 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Why are you using r/videogames as an example to make this claim?

There are at least two more subs that are wildly more popular and have much more activity and substantial posts and commenting.

  • videogames - 293k subscribers
  • Games - 3.3m subscribers
  • gaming - 40m subscribers

I am subbed to both of those last two and didn't even know the first one existed because it's offshoot trash.

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[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 25 points 6 months ago

The GenX sub is the same now. It's just a bunch of questions now like "what's your favorite song from the 80's?". It used to be a sub with substance and now it's lame.

[-] itsnotits@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

from the '80s*

[-] Lemonparty@lemm.ee 25 points 6 months ago

I still use reddit for some of the niche and sports communities that just aren't really present on Lemmy (or not yet at least). I only use old reddit, and I only use my front page or the multis I curated myself. One thing I've noticed a lot lately is posts with zero upvotes and usually zero comments appearing in hot, top, and best filters. Most of these are absolute trash posts that were clearly posted by a bot.

I do not understand what benefit they're seeking by shoving bad posts with no positive feedback into these sorting options but it's fuckin weird.

[-] SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

They don't care what the users see, they want to push metrics on their investors and hope they're not going to do a deep dive into their traffic.

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[-] themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works 18 points 6 months ago

On that note, anyone feel like YouTube comments have recently turned "too nice"? Like if you go to any yt let's play, usually the first 10 top comments won't be talking about the video contents, just "I love that we're getting regular videos 🤗!" Endlessly. It feels so weird to me compared to the actual discourse that could happen there, and obviously yt comments are infamous for being a cesspool so that's even more of a jarring change

[-] zeluko@kbin.social 8 points 6 months ago

Might be bots, might be youtube pushing these more to make everything feel more friendly.. and then bots jump onto that again for ads and scams..

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[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

It's because of bots, in the past there was enough moderation to deal with them plus a larger amount of natural engagement.

Now after the exodus there is significantly less real engagement and much poorer moderation. Those combined allow bots and low effort posting to thrive.

[-] AnAustralianPhotographer@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

My guess is with the protests that some of the top content creators moved away and never came back.

I remember sorting by hot once gave a wide variety of things and now it seems to be more drama posts like AITA posts.

Although it feels like I'm still following an ex, There was one place over there I used to visit a lot and I believe if you took a snapshot of the top ten posts of a random day few years ago and today, they'd be very different. Today's seems to be a group picking up a trend and running with it and before it was more original content. I remember going there because I knew there'd be something new I'd likely laugh at or be amused by and now it feels heavily recycled.

The subscriber count is still way up, but I'd you look at the online/active user count, it feels like its around 10% it was off recent highs.

It felt like the sub had a ship of thecleus moment where it seemed to just be growing, but was also losing people until the group changed but the name was the same.

Someone else said the new reddit gold allows people to receive real money* if people gild their posts (by spending real money) * receiver must be in certain countries.

I saw a post recently on a wholesome memes page where someone tagged repost sleuth bot and someone else commented that todays post was literally a copy of the third top voted post of all time. It was.

I also remember that bot support got affected and this led to a spam detector bot being moved from active development to sunset mode where it was still supported but not actively enhanced.

[-] Blaze@dormi.zone 8 points 6 months ago

The subscriber count is still way up, but I’d you look at the online/active user count, it feels like its around 10% it was off recent highs.

Same here. Subs with hundred of thousands of subscribers, but barely any activity.

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[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago
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[-] apex32@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

When I first joined lemmy, there were bean posts everywhere. People kept posting shitty puns about beans with pictures of beans, and people kept upvoting them. But it eventually died down.

Could these kinds of posts just be a fad on reddit right now?

[-] Sabata11792@kbin.social 13 points 6 months ago

The life cycle of a meme seems broken. They font just go to Facebook to die any more. Reddit reached a size where a meme can't die. There's enough people where a meme can get reposted a few days later and still hit the front page multiple times. Its new to enough people it gets a second or third round. We seen it naturally with Hosts and beans, but it died off once everyone got sick of the joke.

Bots copy and repost what gets upvotes. Seems something gets big a few times over untill enough people see it, then the bots add it to the good meme list and could hit make "new" at any time. The dead meme comes back at just the right moment to be new to some and retro to others, the cycle repeats.

[-] Audrey0nne@leminal.space 13 points 6 months ago

The beans were great. As incoherent as they got it felt like someone was trying to post content so they got my upvotes. It can get pretty dead around here and I was glad for the change of pace. For a while there was nothing but AI prompt Sailor Moon art that was pretty entertaining too

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[-] Snoopy@jlai.lu 15 points 6 months ago

I didn't expect it to reach this level...it doesn't feel appealing.

Do they have some AI chatting in comment ? :)

[-] jystfact@sh.itjust.works 14 points 6 months ago

One more thing to notice here is that despite it being top of all time, none of the posts are even a year old

[-] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 months ago

Reddit’s site traffic has just gone up that much. Especially if you include bots posting constantly in their SEO subreddits that admins are aware of and indifferent to.

[-] merthyr1831@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

the Facebookification of Reddit. bots are raking in engagement so they can astroturf as "legitimate" accounts later.

[-] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

It's all bots, reposts, and corps trying to use the system to drive engagement towards their shit products/websites/services. The comments are worse. jokes, memes, SJWs, and random proselytizations on the most banal shit you've ever ignored. Every time I'm on Reddit it just feels like dead internet.

[-] ShadowRam@fedia.io 10 points 6 months ago

bots are fucking atrocious for generating just miles and miles of trash content on Reddit.

As a mod for many years, the real moding work was finding ways to keep the bots at bay.

It got real bad since around 2020ish...

They can train their AI's all they want on Reddit, it's a complete waste of time.

That data is corrupt as shit. It's already littered with garbage old AI posts and comments, and it's gonna poison their models real bad.

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[-] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

None of those even reference current games, they could all be repost bots reposting stuff from years ago.

The "Which era did you start playing video games" is missing the last 4 years of consoles.

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[-] _Sprite@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

Fluent-in-finance sub has the same problem. Every day, it's a twitter screenshot of some politician statement and the title is always an engagement question like "Is punitive wealth tax gay?" that makes it to /all

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 months ago

The couple of times I snooped in on Reddit to see how it was going, Top Day felt like going through some TikTok/Instagram Story clone.

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 6 months ago

Honestly I think you just fell out the meme train and now you're looking at it as an outsider.

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