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submitted 2 years ago by rando@lemmy.ml to c/technology@lemmy.ml

Most of the EVs being announced have 24/7 internet connectivity, which in itself is fine. However most manufacturers are depending on Google, Amazon etc. to provide infotainment systems (and I'm assuming smart car related features). Generally always connected and tech giant integration doesn't go well for privacy. So are there any manufacturer not dependent on tech giant at all ? Or is tech giant integrations are fine since data is never (and never will be) relayed to cloud?

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[-] k_o_t@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago

i really like this one, it's kinda expensive tho, might be out of your price range 😉

[-] rando@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

lol tell me about it, however using that in USA is not really an option. Bicycle is option still not complete solution

[-] KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

Check out Aptera https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNjUdTJjiNk

They appear to be completely behind supporting right to repair and providing schematics so you can do your own repairs as well. Additionally, efficiency appears to be their primary goal, which I would really like as a "daily commuter".

They don't have a car in the market yet, but when they do, I'm buying for sure. You should look into them https://aptera.us/

[-] TankieReplyBot@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago

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[-] rando@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

interesting, they still don't have much info on infotainment/brain of car but right to repair is promising and generally means better approach. I'll follow their progress.

[-] snek_boi@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

BYD the Chinese car company?

[-] rando@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I'm assuming you mean "Build your device" in that case are there resources? Is this like kit car?

[-] snek_boi@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

I meant the Build Your Dreams Chinese company. I fixed it :)

[-] rando@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Oh that's actual name, thanks for pointing out. I'll check them

[-] Akimoto@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Even a lot of non EVs rely on cloud service for safety measure (Lane keeping assist, emergency braking comes to my mind first). There are more and more assist in vehicles in general. Seems like government and laws are pushing for it. So I don't think it will stop in the near future (5-10 years)

There's obviously privacy concern but I find a lot of the automated system don't even have manual override. Unlike plane autopilot where it can always be overriden by manual interaction as fallback. A lot of vehicles don't have redundancy design like this so I see this is a huge problem.

[-] rando@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

I wasn't aware lane keeping and emergency braking needs cloud connectivity, wouldn't that be hazardous (if internet connectivity is not available) ?

[-] 0x1C3B00DA@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Without cloud connectivity, it would presumably operate like a normal completely human controlled vehicle, so no capability would be lost.

[-] 0x1C3B00DA@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Unlike plane autopilot where it can always be overriden by manual interaction as fallback

To be fair, pilots undergo actual training and in the U.S. I think they have to get relicensed every so often. Drivers take a written test and then a single driving test and they're licensed for the rest of their life, regardless of any new circumstances.

[-] sexy_peach@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

Also autopilot on planes is way simpler, it's just a compass and a few measurements of hight, speed etc and that's basically it. There is no need for breaking at stoplights, pedestrians, emergency breaking and all that stuff.

[-] sexy_peach@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

Wait does cloud lane assist exist in vehicles in the road now? What happens if the signal cuts out?

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