Slightly misleading title, I was surprised that the Russians advanced to Kyiv with 36 tanks.
Why were they were using so many tanks and so few armored personnel carriers? It must have been an extremely intense concentration of force to be like nahhhh let’s leave the APCs out of this and just use tanks.
Or maybe they just don’t have the spare APCs to use in an armored assault like this and don’t want to risk losing more?
just use tanks
(ISW) said Kyiv’s forces repelled 36 tanks and 12 BMP infantry fighting vehicles
Probably just using IFVs instead of APCs, right?
Yeah I missed the IFV part but yeah that is kind of what I would think. I just keep conceptualizing armored assaults as using tanks to punch through a line specifically so that APCs can get through and exploit the opening and quickly maneuver troops into position behind enemy lines.
I guess when you are talking about the most intense, heavily defended parts of an enemies defenses though I guess you aren’t banking on punching through just smashing the other side back. Doesn’t seem very effective though, tanks always outrun infantry.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Ukraine has fought off 36 Russian tanks in the western Donetsk region, according to a think tank, in what is believed to have been one of Moscow’s biggest armoured vehicle assaults of the war.
Citing a Ukrainian serviceman, the Institute for the Study of War (ISW) said Kyiv’s forces repelled 36 tanks and 12 BMP infantry fighting vehicles as part of a Russian battalion-sized mechanised assault near the key town of Avdiivka in Donetsk Oblast on Saturday.
The ISW added that geolocated imagery shows a large number of destroyed and damaged Russian armored vehicles and tanks, with the Ukrainian serviceman reporting that Moscow lost at least 20 in the failed attack.
It comes as Kyiv’s military administration reported five hypersonic Zircon missiles are among the 180 weapons Russia has fired at the Ukrainian capital city since the start of this year.
Meanwhile, Russian shelling from Kharkiv to Lviv killed five people across Ukraine on Sunday.
Vladimir Putin’s forces launched 23 missile attacks and 61 airstrikes, as well as 41 attacks from multiple-launch rocket systems, Ukraine’s General Staff of the Armed Forces said.
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I love to hear stories of an aggressor country's stuff getting blown up and destroyed.
I know I am not an expert at all on this stuff but 36 tanks doesn't sound like a lot. What am I missing?
36 tanks is a substantial amount for a single assault. It was also the largest one since the initial invasion.
Maybe you've never been on the dangerous side of a tank before. They are a lot more threatening when they look directly at you.
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