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This question popped into my head after an ADHD moment of deconstructing the concept that humans willingly drink cow milk on an industrial scale. Would you drink milk if it was human women pumping the milk themselves?

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[-] davidgro@lemmy.world 63 points 1 year ago

One thing I've heard mentioned is that the vegan restriction on animal milk is actually about consent, which humans can give (especially when paid), so human milk can be vegan. That opens up the possibility of vegan cheese, butter, etc. but as true dairy products. Seems like an untapped niche to me.

[-] spittingimage@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

The internet has taught me that human breast milk doesn't make good cheese. Something about the protein content. Either too high or not high enough.

[-] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Iirc it's not enough. Human milk is pretty lean on the spectrum of fat content.

[-] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 13 points 1 year ago

What if I CRISPR my tits for a better nutrient profile. Can I make money selling vegan dairy then?

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[-] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

That opens up the possibility of vegan cheese, butter, etc. but as true dairy products.

There actually are vegan dairy-ish products out there. Several startups have inserted the gene for casein (the main protein in milk) into yeast. So you just harvest the casein, add a little bit of some sort of fat and sugar and you have something that's 99% the same as milk, and can be used in the same sorts of processes.

The only product that I've actually tried was some Brave Robot ice cream, which was well... ice cream.

[-] LemmyFeed@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Yeah but did the yeast consent to that?

[-] Zirconium@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Yes they did. The ate the food and shat out lactose

[-] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I believe it depends on the sub-type of Veganism. Some forms of it are more strict and don't allow for as much if any leeway.

[-] MadBob@feddit.nl 5 points 1 year ago

The other thing about it is that mammals, with rare exceptions, have to have had a baby before they produce milk, and of course since dairy farmers want to make a profit, they just force pregnancy on their animals and take their babies away to bring about a "surplus" of milk for them to sell. So if this ends up happening with people, I want no part of it.

[-] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago

You can buy breast milk in America.

I would rather get it straight from the jugs instead of out of a jug.

[-] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

I'm ngl I completely forgot milk banks existed but I was also meaning as more of a regular item in the dairy section of whatever grocer you frequent

[-] Noodle07@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Imagine being like "hey I saw Mary today, got her milk to make a cake for tonight, it's always a great one"

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[-] Plopp@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I'm picturing women in every work kitchen with their tits out and some tap-like contraption attached to each breast, just sitting there idling next to the coffee machine.

[-] ivanafterall@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
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[-] mononomi@feddit.nl 29 points 1 year ago

I would, but I also think this would turn bad as soon as this was a big commercially available thing.The people pumping would probably be exploited to the point their kids actually needing the milk would get less.

[-] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 year ago
[-] Hawke@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago
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[-] x3i@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago

No, I'll keep on getting mine from the fridge at work.

[-] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

The funniest part is that post is what started the thought process that lead to this question.

[-] Tier1BuildABear@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

How do you milk a fridge?

[-] lemmefixdat4u@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

It is for sale commercially. Hella expensive! $107 for 50 ml.

https://www.innov-research.com/products/single-donor-human-breast-milk

Now you can get it from private individuals for less - a buck or two per ounce, plus overnight shipping. But there are no food safety guarantees. You have no idea who the donor is, what kind of diet they have (may be an issue if you have food or drug allergies), or their health. That's why it's not recommended by the FDA.

[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago
[-] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 8 points 1 year ago
[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Almond milk isn't milk.

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[-] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Nah. I switched from cow milk to plant milk a couple years ago and while it wasn’t awesome at first, once I discovered oat milk my troubles were over. It’s so damn good. I don’t see how human milk would be an improvement.

[-] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Maybe if it had a sexy mascot or something

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

So many issues here... Is the harvesting consensual? Are children being deprived?

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 9 points 1 year ago

Having tasted breast milk as an adult: Nah. Unless I get to have it directly from the titty, it's not something I would choose to drink.

[-] ivanafterall@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Having had it straight from the source, I have to agree. The method of delivery really defines the experience. I'm not likely to buy a jug of it, but I'd pay $3.69 for a titty in my mouth.

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[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Nope. If you were to do something useful to it, though - like turning it into yoghurt or cheese - I might give it a try.

[-] my_hat_stinks@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago

Probably not, I don't even drink cows milk any more. Not because I'm vegan or anything like that, just purely for practical reasons. Cow milk goes off at the drop of a hat but I always manage to get through all my oat milk or almond milk without it turning.

[-] Magus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Seriously, cows milk even pasteurized goes bad way too quickly since I only use it for coffee or cereal.

[-] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I tasted it when my wife was pregnant. Not disgusting, but not something I'd go out of my way for.

[-] MissJinx@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Well, idk about buying but I'll start selling

[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago
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[-] BuryMyHorse@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

For the novelty. Especially if it comes from someone who is on dilaudid

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[-] Delphia@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Theres a lot of old anecdotal discussions about breast milk being good for bodybuilders/weightlifters despite no scientific evidence so Id be very keen to see a large scientific study on that. If you could manufacture it on an industrial scale Id probably drink it, you could never ethically collect it from human women on an industrial scale and pumping it themselves would be a definite nope.

[-] socialpankakemix 5 points 1 year ago

I didn't drink regular milk so no

[-] spittingimage@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Dunno. What's it taste like?

[-] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

It's slightly thinner than cow milk but with a sweeter flavor. Like milk from a cereal bowl but as I said thinner.

[-] guyrocket@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

And how do you know that, ThatWeirdGuy ?

[-] strawberry@kbin.run 5 points 1 year ago
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I prefer a titties to table milk

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