Every product should have a clear EOL path, most preferably a recyclable one. Indeed it should be on manufacturers shoulders to enable it and on legislation to require it.

.. shove it up their CEO's ass?

and dispose of it properly

Introducing i-Landfill™!

Think different!®

Framework is a great company, but I'm a bit torn on Fairphone. Not sure if I like where their company is going.

EDIT: Because some people asked for clarification about Fairphone, here are my (very subjective) thoughts:

I think the idea behind Fairphone is great, and I think more phone manufacturers should take a few hints about repairability and sustainability from them.

That said, their software is just okay, missing a lot of QoL features that are found with other manufacturers. Also, I've seen reports of pretty gnarly bugs after OS updates, but I can't verify those personally.

Their customer service sucks, according to a lot of people. And as someone with experience in both industries (mostly customer support) I can tell you that those things usually speak for a lackluster management.

Also, small nitpick: I really wish they'd kept a headphone jack on their newest phone.

So yeah, as I said, mostly very subjective. But hey, no one said that liking or not liking something can only be for objective reasons.

True to a degree but you can do similar things with thinkpads and keep them longer. The company can always extend lifetime by enabling repairability and upgradeability. But this goes against their profit since they then can’t sell a new product every two years. The consumer shouldn’t have to find ways around planned obsolescence and feel superior if they manage to solve this puzzle.

You gave an example where it is possible to install linux and only basic functionality is required, but what do you think happens with almost all mobile devices?

When it is not possible to change OS/ROM, or they are old, there is no alternative... apart from being stuck with an obsolete OS and apps full of known bugs. Or are you "competent" enough to develop everything yourself?

If you can do the same shit with solar panels or cars or whatever device that has a proprietary bootloader or glued together, then you can climb back on to your high horse.

Samsung Galaxy S2. With a replaceable battery and good external cover, that thing can last for a long time. I did contribute to e-waste by replacing the battery three times so far, but that's all.

I can guarantee that any Android phone with a good modding community can last this much. He's probably using Samsung galaxy s series or those old Google Nexus phone.

My phone's official support stopped at Android 10 yet I'm currently running Android 14 with the help of custom rom.

Hello! Not sure if the screenshot will attach to this comment but I was able to successfully log into Lemmy and I'm replying to your comment from my iPhone 4s.

With all of this being said and done, I do agree that OP is not likely to be using an iPhone. An Android phone from this period is way more usable than this iPhone even with all the hacks I've done to it.

Why are people so afraid of fixing things?

There’s a lot of answers to that question.

Device/tool repair is typically not taught in schools, and from my perspective seems far less likely to be taught at home than it was in previous generations.

Most people have substantially less free time than in previous decades. Sure, some things only take 10-30 minutes to repair, but learning how to make the repair is often a significant time investment.

Devices and tools are intentionally designed to be less reparable, if only to cut costs (e.g. using glue instead of screws). Less obvious repairs take more time to learn.

Lastly, a lot of people never learned how to do any of this; they just took their broken stuff down to a VCR repair. Repair shops nearly don’t exist anymore, and the ones that do charge a substantial sum to repair modern devices. It’s often more financially prudent to buy a new laptop than it is to replace the screen of a four-year-old one, for example.

I think the mouse repair issue needs to be fixed. It's criminal that they're not user serviceable with replacement parts.

A switch or battery going bad should not require a brand new mouse.

Nuclear, preferably fusion works out and energy becomes a non-issue. But nothing else we have can beat the reliability, energy density and power-to-emissions ratio of nuclear.

Well, the 'nuclear fanatics' are probably the best bet for actually saving the climate. The energy to waste ratio makes renewable energy look like a squirt gun compared to a fire hose. Even including the nuclear disasters of Chernobyl and Fukushima, renewable energy is more dangerous to human life.

If you care to learn in video format, Kyle Hill has done an invaluable service illustrating very important things about nuclear energy.