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It's bullshit that the opposite of "impeachable" is "unimpeachable" instead of "peachable"

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[-] Prking@lemmy.world 40 points 11 months ago

It’s because the im isn’t a prefix but part of the word. (It was originally spelt empeche)

[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Ackshully:

Looking at the etymology, impeach is from old-french "empecher", and "em" was an alternative form of the old-french prefix "en".

And "empecher" is itself is derived from the late latin "impedicare", which uses the Latin prefix "im" from which the French prefix comes. And is prefixed to "predica".

So it it is a prefix.

Of course, the latin (and French) prefixes aren't used to indicate opposite meaning, like "in" often is. But that's just yet more bullshit.

[-] Skua@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago

To be fair it was a prefix in the Latin word that it's ultimately derived from. We still treat it a little like a prefix when we use the im- part of the related "import" like a prefix, as we also have "export" and "transport"

[-] drislands@lemmy.world 39 points 11 months ago

It's bullshit that the opposite of "important" is "unimportant" instead of "portant"

[-] Skua@kbin.social 15 points 11 months ago

Should be exportant, obviously

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago
[-] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 11 months ago

disportn't've

[-] bitwolf@lemmy.one 2 points 11 months ago

And "portant" to me sounds very similar to urgent which would make important a better negative / opposite.

[-] ptz@dubvee.org 28 points 11 months ago

Also, "gruntled" should be the opposite of "disgruntled".

[-] Prking@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago
[-] ptz@dubvee.org 17 points 11 months ago

Well I'll be damned. I've used it as a word regardless, lol, but my spell check still hasn't gotten the memo apparently.

[-] OlinOfTheHillPeople@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago

I find this whole conversation whelming.

[-] raynethackery@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Stay whelmed.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

So, would you say you’re more gruntled now?

[-] AmidFuror@fedia.io 15 points 11 months ago

And something that has not been debunked is still bunk.

[-] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Ehh, at least we don't randomly assign every noun one of three genders, and have to memorize them all in order to use the correct form of "the" when speaking about it.

[-] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 11 months ago

Just wait until you hear about declension

[-] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 25 points 11 months ago
[-] Randelung@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago

Inflammable means flammable? What a country!

[-] the_stat_man@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

These are called orphaned negatives and English has loads of them. A great article about them is here: https://stephenliddell.co.uk/2021/03/17/a-gruntled-look-at-orphan-negatives/

As a slight tangent, a similar peculiarity in English (which I don't know of a name for) is where you can use the opposite words for similar actions, e.g. you can chop a tree down and then chop it up.

[-] BehindTheBarrier@programming.dev 8 points 11 months ago

Reminds me of folding cardboard boxes. If you are taking a flat piece and make a box of it, are you folding a box or unfolding the cardboard. Or both. And when you do the reverse, you do the same, do you not?

[-] kurtrude@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Not exactly the same, but that also reminds me of autoantonyms or Janus words. The word dust can be used to describe adding dust or removing dust, for example.

[-] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 5 points 11 months ago

Great link! I love the little story in there.

I actually use "shevelled" alongside many other words which to my mind "should logically exist" - for example, at the weekend I dismantled and then remantled a wall in my garden.

[-] the_stat_man@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Good one, and you now have a mantled wall!

[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago

Contronyms is another great one. English is so tuitive.

[-] daddyjones@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

The most consistent thing about English is how inconsistent it is!

Which is to be expected when you have a Germanic language that is so heavily influenced by Latin languages.

[-] Neato@ttrpg.network 13 points 11 months ago

Well you guys can peach me any day you'd like. 👄

[-] Cinnamon3431@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago
[-] Cinnamon3431@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

u gotsed peached

[-] Mesa@programming.dev 9 points 11 months ago

I don't hate it. Pretty gusting if you ask me.

[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago

I am demused. I can't express my unappointment

[-] EmoDuck@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

The existence of "amused" implies the existence of "bimused", "homomused", "panmused" and possibly even more

[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago

I'm metromused

[-] oo1@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago

expeachable

[-] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 11 months ago
[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago
[-] slazer2au@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Because im is not a typo of un

[-] MetaSynapse@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago
[-] Speculater@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Not to be rude but you meant to write: unpossible

[-] xia@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 11 months ago
[-] QuantumBamboo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago
[-] DeadNinja@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Don't be surprised. Such quirks are unimpossible in English... /s

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's bullshit that "colonel" is pronounced with an R sound, but "kernel" isn't pronounced with an "olo" sound.

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