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[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 9 points 8 months ago

Uhh. That's meaningless? What's the energy/resource usage comparison.

[-] PrinceWith999Enemies@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Every one of these claims so far has been 100% Elon Musk style “FSD is ready to ship right now in 2017” kinds of claims.

There was a great article in the New Yorker (or one of those style mags) a month or so ago that just ripped the industry apart about the billions of dollars spent on products that were overhyped and never shipped. I know that we’re feeling the pain of contraction right now, but we were dumping buckets of money into ideas that were not vetted - it was like the late 90s.

So, like with autopilot for cars, I will believe it when I see it.

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[-] Coasting0942@reddthat.com 8 points 8 months ago

Does this mean no more plastic fed to pigs?

[-] Auzy@beehaw.org 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Rednecks on Facebook are already getting butthurt about this like this and asking lab grown meat to be banned

They're going on about stuff like cancer or whatever

[-] bloom_of_rakes@lemm.ee 8 points 8 months ago

If they used human stem cells, cannibalism? Maybe. Tasty? Probably.

[-] minibyte@sh.itjust.works 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Cannibalism has been directly linked to the transmission of brain-related diseases. Although I’m sure further testing would be needed because that may not be the case with lab grown meat.

It would make for one hell of a research paper.

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[-] survivalmachine@beehaw.org 5 points 8 months ago

Soylent Sausage. Long Pig, Short Links!

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[-] shiveyarbles@beehaw.org 6 points 8 months ago

I'm not exactly sure, but I think we can combine pork growing vats and AI to create a new species.

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[-] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 6 points 8 months ago

okay, but what's the resource consumption like? that's the major issue with meat farming - it takes all the resources necessary to grow food for the animals, and also all the resources necessary to keep and grow the animals themselves. If you need more meat in the same timeframe you can always just raise more pigs.

[-] Olgratin_Magmatoe@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Quick search shows that it is better from a resource standpoint for pretty much all resources:

https://scienceline.org/2019/01/the-truth-about-lab-grown-meat/

Is it better for the environment?

That’s a definite yes. A 2011 study found that clean meat produces 78 to 96 percent lower greenhouse gas emissions, uses 99 percent less land and between 82 and 92 percent less water. Research at the Good Food Institute has concluded that a cell culture the size of one chicken egg can produce a million times more meat than a chicken barn stacked with 20,000 chickens, according to Emery. Energy costs, too, are much lower — and no animal parts are wasted, he adds.

“We won’t be growing the bones and the skin and the intestines that take up resources,” Emery says. “We’ll be vastly more efficient in the land we use.”

How much will it cost?

Experts say cost is the main obstacle standing between consumers and clean meat products.

In 2013, the first clean burger cost $325,000. While the price has decreased dramatically since then, current estimates range from $363 to $2,400 per pound, making it much more expensive than regular meat. (A pound of conventionally produced lean ground beef costs less than $6. Organically raised beef typically costs about a dollar more.)

JUST’s Birdie says the company is pushing hard to drive down production costs. “How do we make these products in order to compete with the price of a Big Mac?” she asks.

The biggest expense, she says, is protein used to feed the cells as they grow. In an effort to improve cost efficiency, JUST has developed a robotic platform capable of screening thousands of proteins to find the best at spurring growth, she says.

And this was from a decade ago. I imagine they've improved the resource need quite a bit since then.

[-] Kedly@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago

I mean, theoretically this makes only the parts we want to eat and makes it directly instead of an offshoot of all the other biological processes like growing to the right age and ratio and growing the parts needed to keep it alive all that time. So my ass pull non educated thought process would assume the end result should require faaaaarrr less energy assumption for the same amount of meat?

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[-] blazera@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

ah would you look at that, no mention of quantity.

It's 60 times faster, there should be the volume of an entire pig's worth in like 2 weeks.

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[-] Phoenix5869@futurology.today 5 points 8 months ago

So when can we realistically expect this to be a thing?

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Let me guess, the stem cells are harvested from pigs?

[-] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 7 points 8 months ago

Likely, but stem cell harvesting is not as horrible for pigs and doesn't require thousands of them either. It's certainly a massive improvement.

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[-] Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Price? With the economy, it'll be cheaper to wait for the pigs to reach our local market instead

[-] citrusface@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

What a short sighted opinion my dude.

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[-] RatBin@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

It's expensive and not without issues now, but it's a new technology. But it's also harder to market for the masses, who may indeed prefer the animal to the bioreactors for their own prejudice. I do not expect cultured meat to be cheap and available anytime soon.

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