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[-] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 149 points 8 months ago

(Not you OP, you = governments)

You want to block corporate social media sites as propaganda

I want to block corporate social media sites because they’re parasites on society.

We are not the same.

[-] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 66 points 8 months ago

Im actually quite upset that lawmakers havent used this to pass generalized privacy protection.

They have an opportunity to end mass survailance, but thats OK if its US survailance

[-] Land_Strider@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago

Our tools of social connection vs their tools of propaganda.

Now fill in the possessive pronouns with either country and change them depending on the specific tool used.

[-] originalfrozenbanana@lemm.ee 15 points 8 months ago

Because the US government is more interested in picking who can spy on us for fun and profit, not whether anyone should.

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

I want to block them because they are both

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[-] Pan_Ziemniak@midwest.social 130 points 8 months ago

Ooh... i dont think the tankies will like this!

[-] locke@sopuli.xyz 47 points 8 months ago

Oh no anyway

[-] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago

Its hilarious the instance the tankies most frequent is banned in china

[-] cloudless@feddit.uk 98 points 8 months ago

Don't forget China blocks tiktok too.

[-] zurohki@aussie.zone 70 points 8 months ago

IIRC China tried to stir up its internet users about the US blocking Tiktok and it fell flat because it's blocked for them too.

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[-] fidodo@lemmy.world 80 points 8 months ago

They're technically not banning tiktok, they're banning China from owning tiktok

[-] bouh@lemmy.world 31 points 8 months ago

Which is somehow even worse : it's like only the USA is allowed to spy on everyone!

[-] duffman@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago

They can still spy, but why would we make it easier for them?

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago

They're functionally forcing the sale of the company to a US Firm at fire sale prices.

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[-] cybersandwich@lemmy.world 63 points 8 months ago
[-] frunch@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

Pooh_tapping_head.jpg

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[-] Vilian@lemmy.ca 36 points 8 months ago

china blocked tiktok first

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[-] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 25 points 8 months ago

I hate tiktok

but all these talks about keeping children off phones is restricting the flow of information to a point that it scares me. we have Enciclopedias in our pockets ffs.

if the bar kids from easily accessing the internet, they're effectively blocking 2mil people (14-17) from instant access to information. (I did some sleep deprived math, dont @me if its off)

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[-] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 24 points 8 months ago

A FORCED SALE IS NOT A BAN.

I've said this like a thousand times and I hate repitition, but the USA as a whole has never tried to ban TikTok. Trump claims he did, it isn't allowed for military servicemembers, but it has never been banned.

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[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 24 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

But china doesnt claim to be a paragon of freedom unlike the united states. No one cares that china banned american social media becuase its expected. People care that america bans tiktok because its hypocritical.

Besides, tiktok isn't even "chinese", their government only has a 1% stake in the company while foreign investors(mostly american) hold 60% IIRC. Y'all can fact check me on that. This is an attempt by the American bourgeosie to force bytedance into being publicly traded so that Americans can have more sway over the companies decisions. This allows them to silence an alternative news source that often conflicts with their interests or make a shit ton of money if they give in and opem up to public trading.

The American bourgeosie is nervous about actually facing competition on the online market place. They've dominated it so long thanks to silicone valley and they got used to it.

[-] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago

I wholly agree with you first paragraph.

But the 1% stake the Chinese government has in ByteDance is a golden share.

From The Economist:

More stunning are the terms of these investments. ciif’s 1% stake in a ByteDance subsidiary gives it the power to appoint one of three board members in a unit that holds key licences for operating its domestic short-video business.

To what extent the CCP will exert control or what ByteDance has agreed to is unclear. And who knows if any of that matters.

[-] QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

The U.S. doesn’t claim to be a paragon of freedom for the CCP or Chinese-owned and operated enterprises lmao

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[-] No_Change_Just_Money@feddit.de 23 points 8 months ago

I love these winnie pooh memes

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago

Oh look... the liberals are at it again.

Your whataboutism doesn't change the fact that the west's claims of valuing "press freedom" turning out to be completely false posits severe implications for your ideology, liberal - not anyone's living in China.

[-] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 35 points 8 months ago

You're not communicating your point very well. Do you mean like neoliberal liberal or like fox news liberals?

[-] popcap200@lemmy.ml 42 points 8 months ago

He's on lemmy. He def means "non-tankies"

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

“non-tankies”

Perhaps it's best not to use terms you don't understand, liberal.

[-] popcap200@lemmy.ml 22 points 8 months ago
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[-] Drinvictus@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 8 months ago

So by blocking apps we'll be more like China? Great point!

[-] MisterMoo@lemmy.world 34 points 8 months ago

It’s not being more like China. It’s treating them the way they treat us. Simple reciprocity. The same thing is often done when other countries level a tariff against our products.

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[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago

Well, do you want to be like China in that regard?

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[-] arin@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

Ah yes let's copy China. Progressive

[-] bufalo1973@lemmy.ml 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The same could be said of the US. GAFAM works for the US just like TikTok works for China. I'd like to see the reaction of the US if the EU told Meta to sell the European branch so they "can't spy on EU citizens".

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[-] mlg@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

Imagine blocking TikTok for being a competitor in a so called free market under the guise of national security and privacy

They didn't blink an eye when Facebook had to testify about blatantly abusing COPPA and doing the exact same thing.

And not even the platform itself, just the company so it can be liquidated or sold to an American megacorp so it can make money for the poor shareholders and let the NSA do their funny PRISM plugin.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

Americans are the most propagandized people on earth. They'll kick and scream about Chinese Censorship, then accuse a Singapore CEO of being a Chinese Communist and pass legislation to Censor an American company because it took money from Chinese investment group ages ago.

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[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

My self hosted DNS does all of that banning too. But that's just my little quality of life thing (and whatever little that does fighting the global data overlords).

[-] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

The fine line between "I don't want to do the thing" and "I don't want you to be able to do the thing".

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