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Somewhat overdue IMHO.

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[-] themurphy@lemmy.world 66 points 9 months ago

The EU ripple effect. Good job US, if it actually passes.

[-] magnetosphere@fedia.io 33 points 9 months ago

I am so grateful that the EU exists to set an example for this sort of thing.

[-] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 22 points 9 months ago

Can we elect the EU to be our next president instead of the current crop of political windbags?

[-] magnetosphere@fedia.io 8 points 9 months ago

I’d vote to join the EU in a heartbeat.

[-] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 8 points 9 months ago

Beeper gets a lot of credit, I remember hearing the DoJ was investigating apple over iMessage due to them blocking beeper from supporting iMessage on android.

[-] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 15 points 9 months ago

These are the main points according to the article:

Disrupting “super apps” that encompass many different programs and could degrade “iOS stickiness” by making it easier for iPhone users to switch to competing devices

I'd imagine this is about setting standard apps for many different things (for example maps, music) and also allowing these apps the same levels of system access as the Apple apps have (for example allowing Google Maps to display full screen directions on the lock screen during navigation). Also the 30% fee for competing services like Spotify.

Blocking cloud-streaming apps for things like video games that would lower the need for more expensive hardware

This is about Apple blocking game streaming apps from the App Store.

Suppressing the quality of messaging between the iPhone and competing platforms like Android

This is obviously about iMessage and the blue/green bubble "issue". This is irrelevant where I live as we simply use other messengers, but okay.

Limiting the functionality of third-party smartwatches with its iPhones and making it harder for Apple Watch users to switch from the iPhone due to compatibility issues

Essentially allowing access to more system functionality and integrations with non-Apple smartwatches.

Blocking third-party developers from creating competing digital wallets with tap-to-pay functionality for the iPhone

So the ability to bind the double-click to Apple Pay to other services.

[-] Cuntessera@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 months ago

Basically what the DMA aims to give the Europeans. Nice copy-paste on the DOJ’s part, but at least they’re finally moving into any direction at all 😭

[-] pryre@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

The messaging bubble issue may seem silly, but could I not open the gates to more unified messaging in general? Like WhatsApp to Signal to iMessage? I would hope there is a greater scope than just the bubble.

[-] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

What I hate is that the alternative that they're switching to is RCS, which puts control of your texting in the hands of your carrier. iMessage is great because you don't need a phone number, I can send texts to my moms iPad even though she doesn't have an iPhone.

[-] Asudox@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

Good. They're learning from the EU.

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 7 points 9 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The US Department of Justice and 16 state and district attorneys general accused Apple of operating an illegal monopoly in the smartphone market in a new antitrust lawsuit.

It alleges that Apple “selectively” imposes contractual restrictions on developers and withholds critical ways of accessing the phone, according to a release.

“Apple exercises its monopoly power to extract more money from consumers, developers, content creators, artists, publishers, small businesses, and merchants, among others,” the DOJ wrote in a press release.

“For years, Apple responded to competitive threats by imposing a series of ‘Whac-A-Mole’ contractual rules and restrictions that have allowed Apple to extract higher prices from consumers, impose higher fees on developers and creators, and to throttle competitive alternatives from rival technologies,” DOJ antitrust division chief Jonathan Kanter said in a statement.

Apple is the second tech giant the DOJ has taken on in recent years after filing two separate antitrust suits against Google over the past two administrations.

It’s instituted new rules through the Digital Markets Act to place a check on the power of gatekeepers of large platforms, several of which are operated by Apple.


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[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 7 points 9 months ago

We need more options besides iOS and Android.

[-] tfowinder@lemmy.ml 9 points 9 months ago

Android is open source platform, you don't need Google for Android.

Android gives you a base system so that you don't have to reinvent the wheel while creating an operating system. All phone manufacturers build on Android to create OS for their mobile.

Googles monopoly is because a lot of things we benifit from Android is cross compatibility of devices from different companies which is facilitated by Google - Play Store, Etc.

This monopoly of Google is not forced but domination of it in Android space since the very beginning.

Anyone can create an OS without Google services but it would be very less useful compared to Android with Google services, because of lack of compatibility.

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago

Using anything that pushes google’s technology is supporting Google. Chromium is pushing Google’s vision on the web. Android of any distribution is pushing Google’s vision on mobile.

There needs to be an alternative to the two major players that don’t help them.

[-] zweieuro@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Have you heard of e os? https://e.foundation/e-os/

De googling your android is at least a possibility, ripping apple out of ios is not possible

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

Again, using tech that came from Google, even if you removed the telemetry and the Google apps is still supporting Google.

We need more 100% independent projects.

[-] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 2 points 8 months ago

KaiOS (which has a fairly specific reason to exist that doesn't apply to most iOS or Android users) notwithstanding I don't see a third competitor gaining any serious traction (traction = apps actually existing = phone actually being usable) this late into the game.

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

I wish a web tech based phone would take off. There’s not much that can’t be a pwa.

[-] Pika@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

Can't wait for this to get thrown out.

Like don't get me wrong, it's long overdue, I just do not believe our current system will actually have it be enforced.

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