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His intervention comes as the presidents of Brazil, Mexico and Colombia all called on Venezuela to release the full details of last Sunday's election.

It has also attracted global criticism, with many governments around the world demanding the Venezuelan government release proof of the result.

The result has been recognised by Venezuelan allies China, Russia and Iran.

But, the US, European Union and other G7 countries have called on Mr Maduro’s government to release detailed voting data.

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[-] AmidFuror@fedia.io 11 points 2 months ago

All US pawns. They said the same thing about the Soviets who brought a workers' paradise to Eastern Europe until the capitalists finally overthrew them.

[-] khannie@lemmy.world 37 points 2 months ago

the Soviets who brought a workers' paradise to Eastern Europe

Lolol. Oh I'm chuckling away here. That's so funny.

[-] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 34 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

People like you make it harder to criticise the US for legitimate reasons.

Hell, "election monitoring" in South America is a pretty historically good reason to criticise them, but now anyone who wants to make this point has to grapple with being called a tankie, and we have to sit alongside statements like "the Soviets who brought a workers' paradise".

Gee, that might have happened if any functioning soviets actually survived the first couple of years of the USSR, and it hadn't become a full-on counter-revolutionary state capitalist empire.

Edit: Actually looking at this person's posts they appear to be sarcastic here. Sorry, but there are ways to do sarcasm that land, and this wasn't it.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 3 points 2 months ago

"Hadn't become"? The revolution ended de facto with the October "revolution", when Bolsheviks started to control who sat on the councils. There may have been a couple of days or even a month where there existed a USSR but it wasn't full-fledged counter-revolutionary, but only because the Bolsheviks needed some time to boil the revolutionary frog.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago

Ha ha ha you're so funny.Or stupid. Or paid lol, because you just can't be that ignorant lol fr.

But please continue mr zero awareness guy, at least nobody is going to fall for that level of bs.

[-] SaltySalamander@fedia.io 21 points 2 months ago

Pretty sure they're just stupid.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

If true then that's some impressive stupidity 😁

[-] count_dongulus@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

Nice take edgelord. Living standards were quite low in the Soviet Union for the overwhelming majority of the population, and they had very little political freedom to imprpve them. Reforms were met with a coup attempt, and it fell apart into various states where even today many are not aligned with "the big spooky west".

[-] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 months ago

Do you understand what living conditions were like before the revolution? Socialism took an agrarian society and catapulted it into one that won the space race. Literaracy, food output, lifespan all increased during socialism, and they deteriorated again once the USSR devolved back into capitalism.

[-] FireTower@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

I think most of this is attributable more so to the abolition of serfdom and the industrial revolution than the communist one. The US also had those improve during the same period too.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Lol it advanced way faster in the west.

[-] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 5 points 2 months ago

Not in the same period of time for the same level of development. And when it did, they accomplished it mostly through colonies and 1800's imperialism.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Cherry picking at its finest.

Start listening in your history classes!

[-] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 4 points 2 months ago

History is exactly why I'm skeptical.

[-] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 2 months ago

I suspect you are either too young to have even known someone that grew up in a Soviet state or you are just a fucking useful idiot.

[-] gandalf_der_12te 5 points 2 months ago

Well I'm not that sure about that, it seems that lots of east germany people say they preferred the DDR.

[-] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Lots of Americans say they preferred trump to any other president. I don't know what point you're trying to make.

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

People really not picking up on your sarcasm

[-] AmidFuror@fedia.io 6 points 2 months ago

It's fine. At least they're making my point for me.

[-] valaramech@fedia.io 20 points 2 months ago

The internet is filled with Schrodinger's Asshole. How is anyone supposed to know if you meant it sarcastically originally or are just claiming it was sarcastic now that it hasn't landed?

[-] AmidFuror@fedia.io 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I made a ridiculous argument so people could connect it to the ones being made about Venezuela. Sarcasm and satire can be very effective. Just because Poe says there's always one nut out there who actually believes in a ridiculous argument doesn't mean sarcasm shouldn't be used.

[-] FireTower@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

NGL my first impression was no sarcasm because of the lack of s/. I thought Lemmygrad just had another leak.

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

I hate the /s. If your sarcasm is good it should stand on it's own merit.

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