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[-] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 40 points 4 months ago

No I know about that.

But what the fuck do trans have to do with the bourgeoisie???

If anything most of the ones I know are anticapitalist.

[-] chamomile@furry.engineer 48 points 4 months ago

@cyborganism @GammaGames There's a particular category of "leftist" who, to put it gently, have a greatly simplified view of the world in which "the only war is class war." They regard social issues such as anti-racism, feminism, queer liberation as distractions from the "true" cause of bringing about a new economic system - unimportant at best, active interference invented by the ruling class at worst.

Basically, they're narrow-minded bigots.

[-] Cube6392@beehaw.org 19 points 4 months ago

Which is so fucking dumb because they're actively resisting the class awakening that we all need to have. That these divisions and culture wars we have are a distraction from the true communal love we could all experience and push to topple the hierarchical system. These fucking regressive morons are standing in the way of their own revolution

[-] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 4 months ago

I'd argue that they aren't entirely wrong, just coming to the entirely wrong conclusion.

It absolutely benefits the 1% to have people fighting about stuff that keeps them out if the crosshairs, but the solution isn't to be an asshole and stamp out any attempts at progress in culture and acceptance. The solution is to accept people and progress cultural stuff faster to unite people better.

If you're going to be militant about the class war, don't you want as many allies as possible? Within reason of course, don't want bigoted assholes.

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 11 points 4 months ago

That's the thing. Dessalines and Nutomic are the bigoted assholes the rest of us should be telling to fuck right off because they're getting in the way of our class awakening. They think they're adovocating for true liberation when their way of going about it slows things down. They are tools of capital holders when they pull shit like this

[-] chamomile@furry.engineer 2 points 4 months ago

@wizardbeard Oh yeah, totally - it's not like the 1% doesn't use these things to its advantage. Don't take my comment as making the mistake of ignoring that. It's just myopic at best to act like other forms of oppression can be ignored as long as we ensure economic liberation. And a lot of the people spouting that opinion... well, there's a reason they think bigotry isn't a problem - they suck.

[-] Beaver@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 months ago

Like Europeans who are targeting the Roma people.

[-] xnx@slrpnk.net 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Not sure how that relates? Thats just Europeans being racist which is extremely common and irritating

[-] pearable@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago

I think all bigotry can be used as a wedge to divide working people from their own interests. I wouldn't be surprised if Romani bigotry was used to control Europeans in the past. However, I think immigration is the most important wedge in the European context

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