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Or any other foreign entity. The Bill of Rights wasn't written to protect foreign governments or business interests.
Obviously meaning foreign governments or foreign business interests. Not sure how you misunderstood that.
100% agree about Neslte. And I'd be happy to expand the requirements to do business with America to include adhering to US labor regulations.
But do you at least understand how the Bill of Rights doesn't apply to this conversation at all now?
Sure, that sounds good and all but do you understand the UN doesn't have any legal power over its member nations? I'm interested in realistic, enforceable legal outcomes, not utopian dreams.
Your idealism is fun, but you really need to read more and travel some to start peeling off that thick layer of naivety.
Ah, I get it, you meant the US should voluntarily adopt UN labor regulations over defining their own because you assume UN regulations would be categorically better than what the US would ever define on their own.
Have you ever actually researched that or you just go from the premise that UN is better than the US because it's not the US and the US is bad?
So you've never actually looked at any UN labor regulations or compared them to the US?
Yeah, it's easy to trust powerless things. The fact that you think that indicates they'd be trustworthy with power is a bit concerning, but I am genuinely enjoying your idealism.
Maybe look that stuff up sometimes, though it could damage your faith and maybe you prefer the bliss of ignorance.
Do you just not like to read or are you really that afraid to challenge your assumptions?
I'm just encouraging you to validate your assumptions by educating yourself before you rant.
Nope, just verify information before you rant about it.
But I know you can't, so I'll just enjoy the ranting.
Your shtick about UN vs US labor regulations that you don't even know how to research.
It has long been recognized that freedom of speech is not unlimited, and I really hope you're not trying to argue that TikTok is press.
Oh. People are trying. I recently, will add briefly, watched a documentary on the Titanic where they had a guy from TT stating facts because his authority is that he's "The Titanic guy". Turned it off seconds after I stopped laughing.
The key line here is “abridging the freedom of speech”
I don’t like TikTok. I think it’s an actual danger to our society in how it promotes the dumbest shit and encourages dangerous antics and conspiracy theories. However, I think it’s an equally dangerous step to let the government decide to limit or remove access to a foreign social media site. The road to hell is paved with good intentions, and while it might seem like a good move to limit access to TikTok specifically, that sets the precedent for removing access to other ways of communicating.
They're not limiting access. They're saying you can't install the application on a government-supplied device. Want TikTok on your personal phone - great, go ahead! Want to watch TikTok in a browser on your government device - hey, that's fine! Install a piece of software that's really aggressive in the data it collects on a government device - nope!
That precedent is well established.
If blocking a website on government devices/networks is a violation of free speech why are you just now sounding the alarm? Why didn't you sound the alarm when I wasn't allowed to browse reddit on my government laptop? The government blocking access on personal devices/networks is a violation, blocking access on government networks/devices is business as usual.
If they were forbidden from installing the app on their personal devices, I'd agree with you. However, the ban is on installing it on government devices, so it's their right to make that rule.
Also, if they really have to watch TikTok on government provided devices, they can watch through Firefox or Chrome or Safari. I'm not seeing any issue at all here.
Tiktok is not the sole method for speech, and it is not a slippery slope to ban all similar methods of speech.
The reason for not allowing it is that tiktok is malware. Should malware with a political message be required to be installed on government computers?