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[-] niktemadur@lemmy.world 27 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I'm going to vote for the party that actively seems to want me and my family to suffer, because that's what mAkEs 'MuRiCa GrAtE aGiN!

Or,

I'm going to not vote and let in the party that actively seems to want me and my family to suffer, because... bOtH pArTiEs ArE tHe SaMe... LoL?

Two flip sides of the same political weak minds, both subjugated by abusive right-wing propaganda.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Democrats in 2008: "If you vote for us, we'll cap the price of Insulin at $35/mo"

Democrats in 2018: "No, for real, this time we're going to do it."

Democrats in 2024: "Its happening, we promise. We just need a majority in Congress."

Democrats in 2032: "Do you want $35/mo insulin or not? Then JUST VOTE!"

Listen, I get it. Trump's a fascist and he's going to shit all over the country if he wins this year. But can we stop it with the Lucy-and-the-Football shit, where we all pretend neoliberals are going to do literally anything that undermines profits for the pharmaceutical industry? Ya'll needed the Bush Administration to get Medicare Plan D because the Clintonites fumbled the bag so badly. Obama endorsed legislation delivering bigger cuts to Medicare and Social Security than his GOP counterparts ffs. Democrats in the House Majority deliberately fought to keep Eli Lilly as an exclusive provider of insulin back in 2014.

This isn't the party of universal health care. It isn't even the party of cheaper health care.

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 13 points 5 months ago

Do you not remember the clusterfuck that led to the Affordable Care Act? It was most certainly the best they could do at the time, and because the vote margin was so razor thin and Republicans were all in on stopping it, it had to be watered down a lot to appease one asshat on the Democratic side: Joe Lieberman. 95% of the Democrats were trying to pass a bill that would have, among many other things, made insulin much easier to get, but they were derailed by one traitor and every single Republican. What exactly is the logic of blaming Democrats for that?

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Do you not remember the clusterfuck that led to the Affordable Care Act?

I remember the bill being held up for weeks over The Hyde Amendment, because "pro-life" democrats didn't want anyone using a thin red cent of federal money for an abortion. But this was when Dems had a 257 seat majority in the House (39 vote margin) and a 60 vote Senate (10 vote margin and functionally filibuster-proof).

It was most certainly the best they could do at the time

Democrats couldn't get Democrats to vote for a bill every single one of those fuckers campaigned on.

95% of the Democrats were trying to pass a bill that would have, among many other things, made insulin much easier to get

I'll spot you 85% if I'm being generous. Even then, quite a few of those assholes were hiding behind the conservative hold-outs and trying to run out the clock before they might be forced to actually pass something.

What exactly is the logic of blaming Democrats for that?

Dem House, Dem Senate, Dem Presidency.

Lemmy: "Republicans did this".

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 3 points 5 months ago

Dem House, Dem Senate, Dem Presidency.

Lemmy: “Republicans did this”.

You're hopeless.

[-] guacupado@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

So now that they did something, you're mad it didn't go far enough so that means both are the same.

Some 4D chess right there.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

So now that they did something

They didn't do anything. The bill didn't pass.

[-] Lightor@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

It's sure as shit the party of protecting health rights and at least proposing these things. I'll take that over the alternative.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

the party of protecting health rights

Democrats have been folding on health rights faster than Superman on laundry day. From abortion to gender transition, they're in full retreat.

[-] Lightor@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Ummm maybe we're watching different realities but look at how Democratic states are handling the overturning of Roe V Wade and how Republican ones are. It's obvious who believes in what.

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