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[-] StoneGender 8 points 5 months ago

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/06/04/fact-sheet-president-biden-announces-new-actions-to-secure-the-border/ Biden has the most funding and strictest punishments for the border in us history. Just because Republicans are evil doesn't mean Democrats aren't. Both parties are upholding the colonist American government, that has persecuted poc and indigenous peoples especially. Vote for Harris but don't be fooled into thinking either party will make this country better.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 months ago

Harris isn't Biden, though. What's her position on the border?

[-] pivot_root@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

It's a shame you're getting downvotes.

You're only pointing out that both parties are incredibly shitty in their own rights, which is something that is undeniably true. Despite that, you still advocate for voting against the orange dictator.

I guess people are missing the point and interpreting your comment as "both sides bad vote neither"

[-] Miaou@jlai.lu 15 points 5 months ago

They're going downvotes because their comment makes no sense. If both parties are exactly the same, why does it matter whom people vote for? Either tell people to stay home, or admit one side is worse. How can you not see that?

[-] pivot_root@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

At what point did they say both parties are exactly the same? They said both parties are evil, and both parties support colonialism. The commenter is evidently disillusioned with the two party system, but they aren't stupidly saying to not vote Democrat. They're asserting that neither party will make the country better.

While the idea of better is highly subjective, let's try being charitable and see it from the commenter's viewpoint: They sound like a socialist, so let's assume they want political reform and more legislation to protect the poor or working class. In the current two-party system, everything is gradually shifting right. The Republicans are more brazen about their goals with shit like Project 2025, while the Democrats only have to be less regressive than the Republicans to have a successful platform. The Republicans don't want reform, and there isn't any incentive for the Democrats to implement progressive changes (such as implementing RCV, banning gerrymandering, introducing SCOTUS term limits, etc.) when they can be equally successful by simply reverting the damage done by the Republicans. Considering that perspective, they're correct in saying neither party will make things "better." The part that isn't said directly but can be inferred is that one of the parties will make things worse much quicker than the other.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago

It sounds like you think that you can give a party a letter grade, like there's a linear scale with "bad" on one end and "good" on the other. Parties are going to be better on some issues and worse on others, and of course it varies from politician to politician, too.

[-] SoJB@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago

This comment is such a damning insight into liberal logic. Incredible.

They really see it in black and white. Blue MAGA indeed.

this post was submitted on 28 Jul 2024
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