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[-] AnarchistsForKamala@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

If you can deny that an animal's experience has any value, you can do the same to a human.

values are subjective

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Okay? So?

Being cruel and violent to innocent creatures requires that you learn to suspend your empathy. Being cruel and violent to innocent creatures EVERY SINGLE DAY requires that you main your empathy, to actually injure yourself and impair your ability to be empathetic AT ALL.

To respond to your apparent non sequitur, I value compassion and empathy. Don't you?

[-] AnarchistsForKamala@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I value compassion and empathy

everyone does..not everyone has a problem with eating animals.

[-] rekorse@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

And yours are inconsistent. Is there a problem with people pointing that out?

[-] AnarchistsForKamala@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

no one can value everything the same.. of course they are inconsistent

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I didn't say they had the same value. I said they had value. Consuming them for hedonistic pleasure is only ethically consistent with the view that animals have effectively zero or even negative intrinsic value.

[-] AnarchistsForKamala@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago
[-] rekorse@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

All of your efforts at self-preservation seem to disagree.

[-] AnarchistsForKamala@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

intrinsic value implies objectivity, and i cannot be objective about my own wellbeing.

[-] rekorse@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Well your body is just a tool your mind uses to complete tasks right? You can be objective about the tools you use can't you? You could even similarly protect your tools like your mind protects your body if you felt it necessary.

How do you decide what you can be objective about and what you can't?

[-] AnarchistsForKamala@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

this is far afield from the discussion and I have no interest in entertaining it. have a nice day

[-] rekorse@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Did you not post "nothing has intrinsic value"?

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