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[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Pro-choice is poison at the General election. It does well as a ballot initiative, but the reality is that very few pro-choice moderates and right-leaning people will change their vote over the issue, whereas pro-lifers are far and away the strongest single-issue voting group.

If Harris and Trump were identical in every way except their stance on abortion, how many Dem voters would flip for Trump in order to vote pro-choice? Would you?

Because millions of people who are otherwise liberal-leaning vote based on their pro-lifer position.

The biggest reason Dems got a Roe boost in 2022 was pro-lifer voters who didn't feel the need to vote Republican because they'd won and could focus on other issues. But running a campaign based on restoring Roe undoes that bump.

[-] fubarx@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago

2022 should have been a red wave, but wasn't. There are proposals to make draconian anti-abortion laws national and override state protections.

I wouldn't underestimate its power to reengage voters, especially the youth vote.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

That's not what the data tells us. If that was the case the abortion referendums would have failed while Democrats got a push. But they didn't. They consistently succeeded in even the reddest areas. Abortion protections gets people out to vote.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Abortion refferendums are easy.

A pro-choice gun nut won't vote Democrat because he cares more about guns than the right to choose. But when you put it as a ballot initiative he doesn't have to weigh it against anything else.

The thing about single-issue voters is that they can swing elections even though they're a minority. The GOP has survived for decades by embracing the pro-life and pro-gun voters. These are massive groups with voters on one side who will base the entirety of their vote on the issue, while the other side of the debate doesn't.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

The GOP has survived for decades because we vote for land, not people. They consistently hold majorities in government with a minority of the population.

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