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Doesn't they currently have the power? Democrats have had tons of opportunities to make sure republicans could not remove them. Why do you think it will be different this time?
A vocal minority of "pro-life" Dems were openly hostile to enshrining abortion rights into law under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2009. Then a handful of "pro-life" Dem Senators killed an attempt to codify the tenants of Roe v Wade into law in 2017. Finally, the current President has refused any effort to add more justices to the SCOTUS in order to marginalize the sitting Conservative Catholic Califate dominating the branch.
So, on at least three notable occasions, yes. Dems have run away from abortion rights as an issue, while winking at their constituents and whispering "We're the only ones who will protect you."
No. Republicans control the House. Democrats cannot pass a bill without their support.
I don’t mean to be a jerk, but why don’t you know that?
There are people outside the USA, you know?
They were commenting with confidence about the current political situation. My first thought was non American, but their statement is quite definitive for someone that doesn’t have a basic understanding of our legislative process.
Like I said, I wasn’t trying to be a jerk. I really wasn’t.
No. It wasn't the legislature or the executive that removed those rights, it was the supreme court, stuffed with conservatives by the republicans.
Obama had the opportunity latest, are you lying to me or yourself?
I'm confused about what you mean. Obama was a while back. The republicans didn't let him appoint a supreme court judge. Roe v Wade was overturned more recently under Trump by the supreme court judges he appointed. The Supreme Court overrules the legislature by interpreting the constitution. Passing a law, even if the republicans had allowed it, doesn't stop the Supreme Court at all, they just declare the law unconstitutional. It used to work because there was balance in the Supreme Court and there were enough moderately honest judges that made judgement according to the law. It doesn't work any more because it's now just a way for the republicans to take full control of the country irrespective of established law. They recently ruled that the president is above the law and cannot make an illegal act as president and cannot be prosecuted afterwards for one. Democracy and the rule of law are now significantly less powerful than the president and will last only as long as whoever is president wants it to.
They need to win both houses. Obama was the last one to have that and he put his cards into the ACA. You really seem to only get one these days. As far as most people were concerned Roe v. Wade was settled and a long standing precedent that in no sane world could be overturned. I don't think many people imagined we'd be here today. Let's not blame the victims either. The left didn't do this.
Haven't the "left" warned about it since forever? Doesn't Dems gi on elections using roe VS Wade? Seems most could imagine where we are today.
No? It was generally considered a settled issue until recently.
Recently ? Did not obama run on codifying RvsW?
No he ran on healthcare. That's why we have the ACA now.
Must have been some other guy , an evil twin perhaps?https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BdrOrwmk78Y
Nah, same guy. It's just not what he "ran on". That doesn't mean it's not an issue at all. Language matters, but if you want to fight over semantics you're on your own.
Yea semantics right.. cool