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submitted 4 months ago by mozz@mbin.grits.dev to c/politics@lemmy.world

This stupid topic again

But sure

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[-] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 months ago

You would prefer a sane Republican but you praise AOC that is at the opposite end of the spectrum...

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago

The thing I really admired about Republicans was that they had principles and held to them. AOC fits that bill. Plus, I believe that you have a right to your viewpoint even if I disagree with you.

[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The thing I really admired about Republicans was that they had principles and held to them.

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In 1953 they did, yes

Some weird little holdouts like John McCain and Liz Cheney survived into the modern era, somehow, but they're about as rare and as realistic in the modern-day GOP as Bernie Sanders and AOC are in the modern Democrats.

If you wanna be able to vote for Adam Kinzinger, say so. It sounds like a good idea to me. But don't pretend it is because he is a Republican when his principles are exactly what got him run out of the Republican Party on a rail.

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago

I mean, as a kid, it certainly appeared that they did to me.

And people with principles getting kicked out of the GOP for having a backbone is exactly why I am very hesitant to vote GOP at the moment.

As a conservative independent, I don’t /mind/ voting GOP but you have to give me a real candidate. I’m not going to vote for any republican who capitulates to Trump or endangers healthcare.

Like, I don’t personally believe we should be pushing LGBT or abortion. But if someone is actually LGBT or actually requires an abortion, we should treat them humanely because they are, well, humans.

What I really don’t like are the vote Republican or vote Democrat no matter what people. It’s contributing to the terrible political climate. Like I don’t like people who do things just for donors or votes. That’s where the principles come in. I want people who believe in what they are doing, or trust the people who know what they are doing.

[-] Starrifier@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago

At the risk of sounding like an asshole, everything seems simpler when you're a child. I'd recommend going back and looking at the actual debate happening at the time with the eyes of an adult.

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

Not an asshole at all. In fact, you make a great point.

[-] PythagreousTitties@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

What principles exactly are you referring to?

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Crushing union strikes with a joy in her eyes that you wish you had when you looked at your kids.

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

It doesn’t matter to me what principles. To me, even I disagree with them, having principles and holding to them is what I like in a politician.

And I hate everyone who tells me how to vote. Everyone voting who they actually believe in is how democracy works. You can disagree and debate, but at the end of the day everyone should be free to make their own decision and have their own opinion.

[-] PythagreousTitties@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago

How does not caring what the principles are make any sense at all? You don't have any principles if that how you think.

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

I have principles. I just don’t feel the need to broadcast them. And it’s irrelevant here because the point is I like people who have principles and stand by them - no matter what their viewpoint is. I may disagree with them, but I can respect that.

What I can’t stand are the spineless people who change their viewpoint at the drop of a hat.

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