Does one have to be an iconoclast or revolutionary these days to be validly left? I consider myself to be left of center, and very much in favor of progressive policies. (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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However I find myself being disagreed with quite often, mostly for not advocating or cheering violence, "by any means possible" change, or revolutionary tactics. It would seem that I'm not viewed as authentically holding my view unless I advocate extreme, violent, or radical action to accomplish it.

Those seem like two different things to me.

Edit: TO COMMUNISTS, ANARCHISTS, OR ANYONE ELSE CALLING FOR THE OVERTHROW OF SOCIETY

THIS OBVIOUSLY ISN'T MEANT FOR YOU.

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[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Gatekeeping is dumb. You are what you are, the rest is description.

Also, this is a pretty communist instance, so it's no wonder you got "lol liberal" responses. Maybe try .world for a wider perspective on a question like this.

Edit: Or another large, politically generic instance, like sh.itjust.works.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Gatekeeping is dumb, but so is calling a square a circle.

Secondly, Lemmy.world actually blocks Leftist instances, while Lemmy.ml does not. You see a wider net on Lemmy.ml, Lemmy.world leans right-wing.

Edit: sh.itjust.works has a large fascist problem, it generally leans right wing overall.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Ah shit, you replied before my edit. Yes, communication is important, but only exists in context. Asking if you're "validly" X is pure gatekeeping. The question is if "I'm X" makes what you are more or less confusing to whoever you're talking to. Although, people rarely ask.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago

I generally agree, actually, you can see my top level comment. The question is deliberately posed in a leading manner, Purity Testing is nonsense sectarianism.

Still, the bit on .world doesn't make much sense, .world explicitly blocks Marxist instances.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yes, sorry, didn't know.

Edit: Although OP isn't on one. Or at least dbzer0 isn't to my knowledge.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

dbzer0 is generally an Anarchist instance, though there are Marxists. They are federated with Lemmy.world to my knowledge.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 10 months ago

Also TIL!

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