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[-] BlackLaZoR@kbin.run 7 points 4 months ago

registered Republican voter

WTF does that even mean? Voting during elections is anonymous, isn't it?

[-] Hegar@fedia.io 34 points 4 months ago

When you register to vote you can register yourself as a member of a political party which allows you to vote in their primaries.

[-] BlackLaZoR@kbin.run 9 points 4 months ago

Then it should not be "registered republican voter" - it should be "Republican party member"

Somone tries whitewash the party in that article

[-] geekwithsoul@lemm.ee 27 points 4 months ago

Those are actually two entirely separate things. Membership in a local political party in the US is unrelated to whether you vote for that party. Party members are more active in organizing and generally have to be approved by other party members, whereas anyone can register as a party voter (in states that require/allow that).

[-] BlackLaZoR@kbin.run 4 points 4 months ago

Thats horribly confusing. What's the point of non members being able to vote? Sounds like this is just another type of membership which isn't officially called a membership

[-] geekwithsoul@lemm.ee 11 points 4 months ago

Oh, it gets even worse. Some states require party identification when registering to vote, some are optional, and others don’t ask about it at all. Relatedly, the party primaries can be “open” (anyone can vote in it) or “closed” (only party-identified voters can participate). Also, the party may choose to do a caucus instead of a primary, so instead of just casting a ballot to choose a nominee, registered party voters select party members who have declared for a nominee and then they hold votes to see if a nominee has enough votes to win.

And that’s the simplified version. It’s a total clusterfuck and if there was a national standard that was easily understandable, things would be so much better.

[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

Yeah, afaik in the civilised non-privatised world that is one and the same (and can't formally be two things).

If you want to vote a party leader (which person has nothing directly to do with public elections, he or she my not even run for any public position), you register with them (they don't have access to any central government citizens database after all, so they need to know who you are). But a party leader (and such) is just admin & strategy role, maybe branding.

If someone from the party (leader or not) runs for parlament or whatever, he or she can be affiliated with aparty (or not, even if a member), but in actual elections party-member votes are exactly as valuable as non-party (or any-party) members.
Which seems only democratic.
It helps towards the problem of "10 people deciding who the runners you can viably choose from are".

Also you don't register to vote, but that's seems like a separate yet related issue.

[-] Hegar@fedia.io 18 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

"Registered republican/democrat" is a very common phrase. I don't think that expression does anything to whitewash anyone, it's just a normal thing to hear.

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

It’s public record. Why? I don’t know.

[-] Kolrami@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

In many states the party you're registered with is public. Who you voted for is kept private. The fact that you voted can't be kept private in any real way if you're voting in person.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Yeah and in mine for instance most people don’t realize they’re registering. The party registration process is selecting which primary to vote in.

[-] workerONE@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

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