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[-] Jericho_One@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

The fact that the number one killer of children in the US is guns?

You are asking me how that fact relates to responsible gun ownership?

Think really hard about how those children were killed by those guns, and maybe you can figure it out.

The children who died by guns are either:

  1. Killing themselves, meaning that an irresponsible gun owner gave that child access to a gun, either deliberately or not deliberately. Irresponsible!

  2. Being killed by the owner of the gun. This one should be self explanatory. It's irresponsible to use the gun you own to kill a child.

  3. Killed by someone with access to someone else's gun. Again, whoever owned this gun was irresponsible enough to allow their weapon to be accessed by someone else to kill children.

You can't be this naive.

[-] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

No it's not relevant to the argument that most gun owners are responsible. Well it is, only in the sense that it proves it. Even the worst country in the world is overwhelmingly responsible even you consider population size.

[-] Jericho_One@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

I think you misunderstand.

It's not important that many gun owners don't end up allowing their guns to be used to kill children. Your argument is miniscule, inconsequential, and not helpful to the sickness in the US society.

It is important, tantamount, and very relevant that because the US has so many guns, that the leading cause of death to children are the guns.

Idgaf about most gun owners, I care about reducing the number of children being killed.

Why don't you care about reducing the number of children killed by guns?

[-] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

No, I think you misunderstand and want to turn this into a debate about guns when I made a simple statement. Most gun owners are responsible. Most gun owners never experience gun violence because of irresponsible gun owners. To say our imply most gun owners are irresponsible is a lie.

If you didn't give a fuck about him owners you shouldn't have run your mouth with false information to my very simple and scooped statement which has nothing to do with the point you are trying to make.

[-] Jericho_One@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

No, I think you misunderstood, and want to turn a very important debate into a pedantic point about sheer ratios without wider context.

Increased gun ownership has been repeatedly shown to increase gun violence. That's a fact. To say that it's "responsible" to increase or even maintain the levels of gun ownership is false.

To say or imply that most gun ownership is responsible is like saying that most cigarette smoking is responsible...except when you consider every fucking horrible ill it wreaks upon society.

You shouldn't run your mouth with false information that is so "very simple and scooped", because that misses the entire fucking point.

Be less simple, simpleton.

[-] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago
[-] nomous@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

These clowns will pray to take your guns and call you stupid for owning them while fretting about Trump and his cult seizing power and banning LGBTQ+ folks from existing.

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