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submitted 4 months ago by AEMarling@slrpnk.net to c/solarpunk@slrpnk.net

In a post-scarcity solarpunk future, I could imagine some reasonable uses, but that’s not the world we’re living in yet.


AI art has already poisoned the creative environment. I commissioned an artist for my latest solarpunk novel, and they used AI without telling me. I had to scrap that illustration. Then the next person I tried to hire claimed they could do the work without AI but in fact they could not.

All that is to say, fuck generative AI and fuck capitalism!

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[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 months ago

Call me an optimist but I think the closest thing to socialism we'll ever see is socialism, not a cool new app.

[-] uriel238 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yeah the art community hated desktop publishing too. People who spent decades working with moveable type were made obsolete.

The problem is not that creativity is easier, the problem is our industrialist masters are all too eager to replace us from the artist to the driver to the lawyer to the task laborer to the engineer.

This isn't a new problem. The reason Disney only does CGI and live action movies now is because the cell animators unionized.

It's not the technology. It's the system that lets you die but for the grace of profit-minded industrialists.

With the US on the brink of autocratic rule, it's really time to take seriously the notion of communist revolution.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 months ago

IMHO what makes it more appealing now than 20 years ago is the bonkers inequality. We could do a really bad job at socialism and still be better off than we are today. We're just flushing trillions of dollars worth of value down the toilet on pointless nonsense that only like 100 people want.

[-] uriel238 3 points 4 months ago

So during the Great Depression (about a century ago) the industrialists were totally happy, and Hoover was on board with them. The people were seriously thinking about doing that thing Lenin was trying over in the Soviet Union, because really anything was better than eating flour paste and living in cardboard and stacked paint cans.

According to Behind the Bastards in their two parter How The Rich Ate Christianity, FDR's New Deal was in order to give capitalism another chance since it really was doing the people wrong, and Hoover and his industrialist pals really hated it.

(Christianity at the time was also on team-pinko, except they believed it was the responsibility of wealth and industry to just be relentlessly charitable, so at the time the industrialists had no allies in the Church. The current right wing guns-and-money Christian Nationalism is the product of a decades long propaganda campaign to turn the faith into a pro-wealth, pro-capitalism ideology. And the Catholic Church and Protestant ministries alike bought into it.)

[-] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

App? Is that really how you lot see tech? Apps on a phone spoonfed you by a corporation? No wonder you fucking hate it lol I would too, it's just sad. I don't use apps or corporate products as I can, that's why I like GenAI, it's pure expression of the socialist politics of open source software.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

No, just the impression I got from what you said. Emphasis on the socialism, not on the computer program.

[-] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago

We practice it where we can. Right now IRL is bust, but the internet has been a bustling hive of communal activity for the betterment of all humanity, open source GenAI included.

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