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[-] puppy@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago
[-] magnetosphere@fedia.io 20 points 6 months ago

I’m a little fuzzy on exactly what Zionism is, so I just don’t talk about it, rather than saying something accidentally racist, and/or making an ass of myself.

[-] BoneALisa@lemm.ee 15 points 6 months ago

Someone correct me if im wrong, but Zionism is Isreali radical nationalism, their primary goal is the creation of a Jewish ethno-state in current isreal and palestine.

The Youtuber Shaun has a great video going through the history of the conflict and Zionism: https://youtu.be/3xottY-7m3k

[-] bl_r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 6 months ago

You are mostly there. One of the most important notes is that the project is settler colonial, and it is also helpful to point out that zionism is older than Israel, and it has been around for over 100 years.

+1 on that Shaun vid, it’s great

[-] BoneALisa@lemm.ee 7 points 6 months ago

Yea sorry, the creation of an ethno-state in palestine through colonialism. I did not know that its older than isreal though, good to know.

And shauns vids are top tier lol.

[-] Microw@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

Any kind of Israeli nationalism can be zionism, doesn't need to be radical.

[-] Nachorella@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 6 months ago

I like this approach. I wish more people would be honest about the limits of their arguments instead of just saying whatever they think will help them 'win'.

[-] magnetosphere@fedia.io 2 points 6 months ago

Thank you. It’s the result of hard earned experience!

[-] sparkle@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Zionism is basically the belief that Jewish people deserve to own Palestine/Jerusalem ("Zion") and that non-Jews should be ethnically cleansed from "Zion" (the Nakba)

[-] Microw@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago

The second part of your definition definitely isnt true for all forms of Zionism. Zionism is as broad of a political ideology as liberalism, conservativism or communism is. Some zionists will agree with that, some won't or "soften" it to "we'll let them stay as second class citizens lol"

[-] kaffiene@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

I don't really use the term myself because I find it too vague. People shift what they mean when they use it so I stick to the actual concepts I'm discussing. The existence of a state for Jews and apartheid settler colonialism are morally polls apart.

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