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When it's calculable? You mean like when it's a concrete number of deaths? Like what actually happens?
And "people don't always act as the math tells them to" isn't a counter argument. You may as well reply to me by saying "but your arguments are moot because reason doesn't dictate my behavior"
that is essentially what i'm saying. farmers are no more rational than i am. neither are abbatoir owers or their workers or meat packers or food suppliers or grocers or restauranteurs. your reasoning would hold up if they were rational actors, but they are not, so you argument crumbles.