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[-] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 7 points 5 months ago

Ah yes, I see the "Religion is bad! Religion enables child rapists! Abolish religion!" crowd is out.

Religion is not the issue, religion is the window dressing to the actual issue, it's institutions protecting themselves.

Let's take a trip down "Holy shit, these institutions are terrible" memory lane.

Our first stop is Jimmy Savlie and the BBC. Fairly confident in saying that the BBC is not a religious institution.

Next up, the Boy Scouts of America sex abuse cases, while the Boy Scouts of America had some religious trappings, as an organization it was never truly about religion.

Let's not forget Larry Nasser and USA Gymnastics. Fairly sure that USA Gymnastics isn't a religious intuition.

Fourth stop is Jerry Sandusky and their history of child sex assault.

Hockey Canada had a massive sexual assault scandal involving youth players sexual assaulting females.

The Trouble Teen industry has a long history of abusing children. While some companies/associations may have religious connotations, the industry as whole is not religious.

To round out the list: we have Judge Rotenberg Educational Centre Inc, were disabled children were tortured; Dr. John Money, who wanted to test gender identity and sexual orientation on twins by forcing one twin to grow up as a different gender; finally, there is Dr. Peter Neuauer, who spilt up twins and triplets without telling anyone to test nature vs nurture. The kicker to Dr. Neuauer, the results of the extremely unethical study are locked up at Yale until October 25, 2026 because "feared that public opinion would be against the study, and declined to publish it."

Every one of these examples are all about powerful institutions, caring about protecting themselves. When it comes to religion and abuse, everyone mistakes the forest for the trees.

[-] efstajas@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago

That's some dense whataboutism

[-] mint_tamas@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

Are you also a “guns don’t kill people, people kill people” kinda person?

[-] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 2 points 5 months ago

I'm reasonably sure it's the bullets...

[-] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 months ago

None but religious institutions lay claim to a divine insight into morality, though.

[-] yannic@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago

Are they the same ones that claim "we are all sinners"?

[-] trevor 1 points 5 months ago

All hierarchies facilitate abuse. Theism is the ultimate hierarchy. When you have large congregations of people that fall in line under a hierarchy, those at the top will abuse those beneath them.

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